thanks, Jay,

Yes the FM80 can do pwm.  BTW I'd like to know the frequency?  I could use that 
to drive a SSR relay directly but my assumption would be it would cause the 
lights to flicker?  Not so?  I think that once triggered on they stay on for a 
full half cycle.  It'd be simpler to do this for sure.

I would check the potential of the aux negative but I don't have any such 
controllers here on scoraig and I want to know the score before I go on site to 
install the SSR.

thanks to all
Hugh

On 6 Dec 2014, at 00:09, jay peltz wrote:

> Hi Hugh
> 
> I use 3-32vdc SS relays all the time powered from the AUX relay ( xantex, 
> classic,outback). 
> They work just fine in fast and slow PWM 
> And switching both AC or DC, with correct relay of course. 
> 
> As to connecting the ground, that I can't tell you. But your ohm meter should 
> tell you no?
> 
> Jay
> Peltz power
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 5, 2014, at 2:09 PM, Hugh Piggott <h...@scoraigwind.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Hugh again
>> Just to clarify the set up:
>> The SSR controls the AC power from the inverter to the heating load.  It 
>> switches partway through each half cycle and thus controls the power to the 
>> load.
>> The input to the SSR requires a power supply 8-32 V present all the time it 
>> is working.  I suppose it might be feasible to take this from  the AUX but 
>> as this will be pulsing PWM I don't want to rely on that.  Its a supply 
>> voltage to the input and not a control signal and for that reason I want to 
>> take it from the main battery which happens to be a 24 volt one which is 
>> ideal.
>> The control signal is 0-10 volts DC and this controls the amount of power 
>> the unit delivers smoothly.  I want to get this from a capacitor that 
>> charges off the aux output so that is turns the PWM into an analog voltage 
>> signal that controls the SSR and controls the load.  I do this all the time 
>> with tristar outputs so it does work.  I have just never done it with the 
>> AUX of a FM80 controller.
>> 
>> So my question again is simply this.  Can I connect the ground of the AUX to 
>> the inverter batter ground negative?  Most likely it is already connected, 
>> but I'd like to know if connecting it will damage the FM80.  I am also 
>> trying the outback forum.
>> 
>> thanks for any help
>> Hugh
>> 
>> On 5 Dec 2014, at 18:44, Hugh Piggott wrote:
>> 
>>> hi wrenches,
>>> 
>>> I am installing some load controls for a client who has a FM80 controller. 
>>> I don't have experience with this product. It has a 12V aux output that I 
>>> wish to drive an SSR but the wiring is complicated by the fact that this 
>>> SSR also needs a power supply as well as a control signal. I want to use 
>>> 24V nominal system battery for the SSR power and AUX for the signal. Can I 
>>> connect the grounds together?
>>> 
>>> Additional info. I am using a phase control SSR driven by a 0-10 volt 
>>> signal to control an AC load with phase angle shift control. I plan to put 
>>> an RC filter that converts the PWM output of the AUX from the CC to give an 
>>> analog voltage output that determines the loading of the inverter. Crydom 
>>> MCPC2450
>>> 
>>> thanks for any help before I go on site next week
>>> Hugh
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