Mac, et al:

Generac will be releasing a 15k EcoGen soon that is dual fuel LP & natural gas.

Regards,

Gary Willett
Icarus Engineering LLC

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> On Nov 21, 2014, at 10:41 AM, jay peltz <j...@asis.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mac
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Easy fix for the 120 only is to install small transformer to step up 240 to 
> "trick" the avr. 
> 
> I'll check out the ecogen
> 
> Thx
> 
> Jay
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2014, at 5:41 AM, Mac Lewis <maclew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jay,
>> 
>> Although I like the Cummins units, we have a fairly weak Cummins service 
>> dealership in our area.  I like to specify a generator that we can service 
>> or that can be serviced locally. 
>> 
>>  If you need 120 VAC only, many of the cheaper standby units won't work 
>> without a transformer.  You can't rewire the stator, because the internal 
>> control elements sense 240 VAC, instead of 120.
>> Most of our systems are above 8,000 feet of elevation, so we have 
>> significant altitude derate.  We have used the Kohler 14 RESA and had good 
>> luck with it.  It is pretty inexpensive and has an off-grid warranty (18 
>> month, 1000 h).  Again, you can't rewire the stator on this unit.  One thing 
>> I don't like about these units is that everything is in the controller now, 
>> so if the $30 SCR goes out, you need to replace the $1200 controller.  I 
>> think most manufacturers are going this way on these cheaper units.
>> 
>> There is also the 6 kW Ecogen from Generac.  We have installed one of these, 
>> and I've liked it so far.  It has a built in oil-makeup kit (holds 4 qts), 
>> for clients that don't have a strong maintenance record (most of ours 
>> don't).  These come off the shelf 120 VAC only, but is convertible to 240 
>> VAC with a conversion kit.  It comes with a 3 y, 2000 h off-grid warranty.  
>> I'd probably use these more often except that with 6 kW, it becomes too 
>> small for most of our installations at elevation.
>> 
>> Good luck, let us know what you decide.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Kevin Pegg <kp...@energyalternatives.ca> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Though we use Diesel mostly, some situations LPG is best and we have been 
>>> using the Cummins / Onan Commercial Moible units for years. Many over 7,000 
>>> hrs still running strong. Almost all are in remote auto start situations 
>>> and have proven to be very reliable. As they are designed to hang under a 
>>> service truck body, we fabricate a stand - with baffles for breathing 
>>> otherwise it can overheat by drawing hot air in to cool.
>>> http://power.cummins.com/onanpowerWeb/navigation.do?pageId=660
>>> 
>>> Kevin
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org]On
>>> Behalf Of jay peltz
>>> Sent: November 20, 2014 10:11 AM
>>> To: RE-wrenches
>>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] propane generator
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> I know this has been discussed before.
>>> I can't seem to find the threads about propane generators.
>>> 
>>> I've got a client with a Kohler 8.5 that is having problems.
>>> Hes looking for good quality options other than the Kohler.
>>> 
>>> thanks in advance,
>>> 
>>> jay
>>> 
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>> -- 
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