We are the McDonalds of roof penetrations. During the last 30 years we have 
literally made pincushions of the roof we have worked on. After millions of 
unflashed penetrations we have only had one leak.  Observing hundreds of Carter 
era systems we have never seen a mounting foot leak. Like Sasquatch sighting we 
have heard the stories. But from where we stand, we have seen exactly the same 
amount of both.  Geography may be a key factor.  

We have used Vulcum and Dimonic we equal success. 

We are now forced to use flashing. Oregon specialty code forces every 24" when 
within 3' of a peak or edge. Where rafters are 16"oc we are forced to install 
every 16".  Outside of 3' every 48". 

The solar industry sleeps. 





On Apr 12, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Jerry Shafer <jerrysgarag...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Flashing only
> 
> On Apr 11, 2014 9:20 AM, "Troy Harvey" <tahar...@heliocentric.org> wrote:
> 1. I'm interest in a poll of installers who are using flashings vs sealant. 
> Now that the flashing market has evolved, what are you using today? When did 
> you switch to flashings (if you did). And why not, if you still prefer 
> sealant.
> 
> 2. Is there a any code defense for sealant systems ? (L-foot sealed down to 
> shingles). Does anyone know of a scientific shootout between sealants and 
> flashings?
> 
> Here is my view: The construction industry is slow to evolve. Sealants, 
> clauks & adhesives are not trusted in general, due to the legacy of code, and 
> we have a mechanical vs. chemical industry bias. 
> 
> There is something about seeing a flashing that says, that is a "professional 
> job", it must comply with code. And yet, my experience says I'd trust a 
> 50-year silicone over a flashing that depends on gravity. Gravity should be 
> dependable right? But anyone in snow country can tell you in spring, water 
> can go uphill after ice dams form. There are high-rise buildings that use 
> "structural glazing" which is just glass and silicone. These systems are now 
> getting to be 50 years old without issue.
> 
> The cost of flashings have come down in the last few years, but so has the 
> cost per watt of installs. With 50 feet in a typical install around here that 
> is $150 in feet, lags & silicone. Or $1500 in flashings, and extra labor. 
> That can be a large part of a bid, and make you more expensive in a 
> competitive landscape. That is fine, if it adds value... but I personally 
> don't see the proven value, other than the "appearance" of code 
> defensibility. Anybody have proof?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Troy Harvey
> ---------------------
> Principal Engineer
> Heliocentric
> 801-453-9434
> tahar...@heliocentric.org
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