I wonder if it is one of those huge sprayers that they are using in the field that roll across the field spraying the crops?
They use a massive amount of water on each of their sweeps and I would have to say that with my limited water pumping experience I would run screaming from the room! Over the last 20+ years I've tried to apply Solar to do a lot of things, not all successfully. that application wouldn't be one of them that I would even consider Bob Ellison > On Mar 27, 2014, at 1:08 PM, "William Dorsett" <wmdors...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote: > > What other technology is asked to do universal service? You wouldn’t drive a > dump truck on a family vacation, nor a compact to haul dirt. You can shape > the question for any technology to perform unreasonable service. It doesn’t > invalidate the cost-effectiveness of PV for substantial portion of the > utility’s service. > > Bill Dorsett > > From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org > [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Allan Sindelar > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 11:02 AM > To: RE-wrenches > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Oddball pumping question > > Jerry, > Your request is entirely reasonable, and my answer is no, I can't. The > request in my original message came from an online contact request from > someone who was at yesterday's PRC hearing and heard Commissioner Lyons' > comment. I have no further information, as to get it I would most likely have > to contact the Commissioner myself. I wrote to the List in order to get a > "bird's-eye view" of whether such an application was even possible. I > wouldn't want to call up the Commissioner for more info with no idea of > whether it's even possible. I'd be just another deer in those headlights. > > Given all that, given that he's from the plains on northeastern NM, I would > expect it to be a well. > Allan > > > On 3/27/2014 9:36 AM, Jerry Shafer wrote: > can you give us more details, are you proposing pumping from a pond, a well, > storage tank what. > Jerry > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 7:19 AM, Chris Mason <cometenergysyst...@gmail.com> > wrote: > I have a couple of suggestions. A pump motor of that size is likely Class H > and requires a 7x starting current or Locked Rotor Amperage. During starting > the power factor can drop to .2 or lower and the inrush can run to 20 times > the rated run current. Even diesel generators have a very difficult time > starting singular loads of this size. I would not even attempt such a task. > That said, the solution is to look at the work to be done. If the intent is > to pump, let's say, 10000 gallons in one hour per day, suggest that a solar > powered DC pump could accomplish the same in the course of a day. DC pumps > are viable speed and don't have inrush currents. > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Allan Sindelar > <al...@positiveenergysolar.com> wrote: > Wrenches, > Here's one of the oddest questions I have come across in years: > PRC Commisioner Lyons issued a challenge to NM solar companies today. He > stated that he cannot get his electric coop to bring three phase into his > property to run his irrigation (a 150 hp motor). He said that whenever he > mentions this to a solar outfit - running a 150 hp motor on pv - they look > back at him like a deer in the headlights. Can you meet his challenge? > This application is way above my pay grade, and normally I would not give > this question much pause, as few ranchers would be seriously willing to put > up the money for the design and research time to work up and price a > solution, especially given that as far as I know, none even exists. No rural > water pumping PV designer that I know works with motor loads of such scale. > Indeed, it makes my head spin to think of it. > > I checked an older (2003) Franklin motor application guide and found specs > for a 150 HP 3 phase motor: 128 kilowatts at 380-575 VAC at 60 Hz. > > The only reason I am writing is this: The rancher is one of our state's five > Public Regulatory Commissioners. These are the folks who regulate our three > private utilities and 20 +/- rural co-ops, and he is perhaps the most > conservative one of the five. Last fall he initiated an ill-conceived > regulation to cut in half our state's RPS and pushed it through to passage on > the PRC; about two months later the ruling was rescinded due to a huge public > outcry. So if it were even possible to address his particular request, the > potential consequences could have far-reaching effects politically. > > Has anyone attempted or accomplished anything even close to this? Is there > existing equipment that could handle such an application? Could such an > application be justified economically? Or can anyone offer a reasoned answer > why it's not possible? > > Thank you, > Allan > -- > Allan Sindelar > al...@positiveenergysolar.com > NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional > NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional > New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician > Founder, Positive Energy, Inc. > A Certified B CorporationTM > 3209 Richards Lane > Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 > 505 424-1112 office 780-2738 cell > www.positiveenergysolar.com > > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > > > > -- > Chris Mason > President, Comet Systems Ltd > www.cometenergysystems.com > Cell: 264.235.5670 > Skype: netconcepts > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org >
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