Not only are the voltages on these agricultural electric fences pretty high as 
Roy mentions, but many supply the voltage as a pulsed square wave and therefore 
generate harmonics and noise too.  Electrical separation is necessary, and some 
distance will help.

Jeff Irish
Hudson Solar

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Erika,

That electric fencer needs it's own grounding electrode system!

Unlike the premises grounding system, where there's normally no voltage 
present, the fencer's
ground completes the circuit.

I have measured over 12,000 volts on our farm fencer grounding conductor....I 
have learned not to
touch it....had to try it 2 or 3 times to be sure though ;-)


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On 12/6/2013 2:31 PM, Erika Weliczko wrote:
SB3000TL-US inverters.
The concern is possible voltage that may lead the inverter to believe there is 
a ground fault because of fence connections.
I wonder what the tolerable window of voltage of + or - to ground is for this 
unit before it cries GF.

During a drizzle I had a little tingle while assembling EMT. I did not get a 
meter out, but it sorta felt like a 9V battery across your tongue.
In the end even a little tingle is not really supposed to be there...


Regards,
Erika

From: jay peltz [mailto:j...@asis.com]
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 11:05 AM
To: er...@repowersolutions.com<mailto:er...@repowersolutions.com>; RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Electric fence, metal buildings, lightning 
protection systems

Hi Erika,
What seems to be the issue?
And what equipment ( inverters ) are you using

Jay

Peltz power




On Dec 6, 2013, at 5:57 AM, "Erika Weliczko" 
<er...@repowersolutions.com<mailto:er...@repowersolutions.com>> wrote:
Anyone had to contend with electric fence installation (AC controller) using a 
ground rod (not main service) at remote farm building and messing with 
inverters? And perhaps causing other issues?

Of course, this is a metal roof with a lightning protection system (i.e. bare 
braided copper on roof all the way to rod.)

I think we need to redirect the electric fence wire to its own dedicated rods, 
away from the building that has solar.

Insights are appreciated.

Thanks,
Erika

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