Hey Dan, My assumption was that the GFI will work and it will only be milliseconds of short circuit. Your idea is good in case the GFI fails to open. The 2W load was a typo from my first calculation using 80k ohm. I forgot to change it when It dawned on me that might not produce enough current to trip the circuit.
I often weld small beads with a single 90 volt Kaneka PV module to demonstrate to a DIY customer just how dangerous it can be to "do it wrong". At 400+ volts…be careful indeed! Larry On Nov 25, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Exeltech <exelt...@yahoo.com> wrote: Carl, #1: Under the conditions described by Larry below .. if by some chance the resistor somehow completes a circuit, you'll have up to 10 milliamps flowing through a 40K resistor, and in that case .. up to 4 watts dissipated. To be on the safe side, use a 10W rated resistor just in case there IS a completed circuit. If the array voltage is 500Vdc, use a 50K resistor. If it's 600V .. a 60K ... and so forth. Of greater importance is to ensure you use a resistor that's specified for the rated voltage. Most people aren't aware that resistors have a voltage rating. To be on the safe side, make sure the one you use for this task is rated for 2X the anticipated voltage you'll encounter. #2: Arc faults occur in a variety of forms. Larry did a good job describing them below. They can be manually created with varying degrees of difficulty. One fault to try to create (and the easiest of the list) would be the series fault. Separate a conductor (or connection) between two PV while the system is under load. I recommend using a matched pair of PV connectors with conductors attached, insert them between two PV, and use the conductors themselves as your "break" point (as opposed to using the existing connectors already on the PV). Separating PV connectors under load will damage the pins and render the connectors unusable if the metal melts (and it could). Be careful! Dan -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 11/25/13, Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems <la...@starlightsolar.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Safely inducing arc fault and ground fault in a completed array To: "RE-wrenches" <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> Date: Monday, November 25, 2013, 3:55 PM Carl, Assuming about 400 volts, a 40k ohm resistor from PV negative to ground should trip the ground fault. Solder up to some test leads, insulate the resistor and make the short. You'll only be conducting about 2 Watts through the resistor. Arc fault, on the other hand, can be very complex. Series, parallel, inter string and more, pulsed, constant, varying intensity…..it get's beyond my understanding quickly. I'll bow out here and defer to others that are far more educated. Larry On Nov 25, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Carl Adams <swingjun...@gmail.com> wrote: Wrenches, We just completed an install with the SMA STP12000TL-US. I would like to induce two fault conditions into the system 1) ground fault, and 2) arc fault, in a manner that is both safe to equipment and personnel, in order to see how these units respond to those conditions, and in particular how the arc fault is cleared, after detection. (assuming it is detected) Any suggestions appreciated. With Regards Carl Adams NABCEP 031508-1SunRock Solar _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
