Jim.
Like my dear friend Bob Maynard once told me, "The pioneers get the arrows. The 
settlers get the land."
Bob-O
On Aug 17, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Solarguy wrote:

> >> Funny reminds me of the old days,
 
I seem to recall a lot of years back, on this same discussion site, a similar 
exchange. It seems that one installer was looking for advice concerning an 
overly demanding customer with unreasonable expectations for a PV systems 
performance.
The customer was the Dept. of Defense.
Opposing points-of-view questioned why any Wrench in their right mind would 
waste perfectly good, and expensive, PV on someone whose goal was world 
domination and death to all who opposed them. I’ll sell ‘em PV because I’m in 
the business of selling PV was the response.
Other debates have sprung from Wrenches complaining that potential customers 
have two SUVs parked in front of a 6500 sf home. These people clearly don’t get 
it! Why should I waste PV on them?
The answer is always the same. Because it’s what we do.
McMansion owners and the DOD are now believers and established customers.
Now there is no one that wouldn’t agree that the growing exodus from our 
decaying, congested and polluted urban metromess will not continue to increase. 
It’s no different now than years ago. Sell them all the PV they are willing to 
pay for but do it with unabashed honesty. And when they are neck deep in 
challenges from their lifestyle decision, they will always remember that you 
warned them that it would be like this. And they will respect you for it if 
they have an ounce of integrity.
This new generation of get-out-of-town with their all-electric lifestyle may be 
our next market segment to deal with. If you don’t want their business then 
some other PV installer will. If the job’s done right the first time it 
benefits us all. If not we all take one step back.
Our industry competition includes the coal, natural gas and electric utility 
cartel. They and a lot of politicians, stand shoulder to shoulder in opposition 
to individuals generating their own power. You had better take every customer 
you can get and make a believer out of them because the competition is doing 
everything they can to put up hurdles to PV growth.
And because ours is one of those industries that trains-your-competition it’s 
important that we train them to high standards. It’s not easy being a pioneer.
Jim Duncan
 
 
From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Hilton Dier III
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 9:13 AM
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Subject: [RE-wrenches] PV Assist - customer management
 
This: "PS: the "good" customers are not necessarily the greenest people, they 
are the ones that reduce consumption as best they can, do their homework, trust 
me and pay on time."

I'd add, "and have a grasp on the realities of the situation."

There are people who will never grasp that you can't consistently leave a 
battery at 90% DOD for a week without shortening its life. Or that solar 
irradiance drops in the winter. You can recite the facts to them and they will 
nod and look like they are absorbing information, but memory fades and a month 
later they will complain about the exact thing you explained to them.

William, whatever you do with these clients, I recommend that you write a short 
disclaimer about battery life and have them read it and sign it. "I acknowledge 
that this particular design and implementation is not ideal for long battery 
life. I do not expect the battery banks as installed and used to last their 
advertised cycle life." Or something like that. When they ask why you aren't 
designing it differently, quote them the price for a system that would preserve 
the batteries. Pick their jaw up off the ground for them, hand it back, and 
make them sign. At the very least it will put them on notice that the reality 
of the situation is not ideal.

Good luck.

Hilton

 
 
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Hilton Dier III
Renewable Energy Design
Partner, Solar Gain LLC
453 East Hill Rd.
Middlesex, VT 05602
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