Wayne,

Sorry about the delay!... I've been in wonderful sunny Nigeria dodging 
kidnappers and car bombs...


All Rolls batteries require a bit hotter voltage when charging and especially 
when you are using multiple parallel strings.

With that system I would suggest if you are using the Outback Temp Compensation.

Inverter:
Bulk/Absorb 29.2 (2.45vpc)
Absorb Time 15 Hours.  (I'll explain why below)
Float 26.4 (2.2vpc)
EQ 31.8 (2.65vpc)

Charge Controllers:
Bulk/Absorb 29.4-29.6.
               Normally I set the controller a bit higher than the inverter 
just so my charge controller don't back off if my inverter is also charging the 
battery.
Absorb Time 4.5 Hours (Time=.42 * 3280 (C20 Rate) / 320amps (max current of 
charge controllers) =4.13... Rounded up to 4.5 Hours.   This can be adjusted 
depending on monthly SG measurements and or water use.
Float 26.4
EQ 31.8

Flexnet DC

End Amps 2% of Battery bank Cap.  65 amps.
Charge Voltage 29.0
Met Time 1-3 min.

Battery Charge Factor 90%
               This means if you take out 100 amps it's going to put back 110% 
before it determine the batts are full.

The reason for the longer Absorb time is the Flexnet DC determines full charge 
by three parameters.


1.      Absorb Time Completion

2.      End Amps/Charged Voltage

3.      Battery Charge Factor.

IF ANY ONE OF THESE (OR Statement in the Logic) PARAMETERS ARE MET, AND THE 
FNDC SEE'S A 60 SECOND DISCHARGE IT WILL RESET THE SOC METER TO 98,99,100%.   
It's better to set the Absorb timer longer and force it to use the End Amps or 
BCF%..

The absolute worst way to charge a battery is by running a timer, all the 
inverter manufactures do it because it's a cheap (but somewhat effective) 
method of charging a battery that works as long as you set the absorb timer 
correctly.  Plus a sulfated battery will rise in voltage too early potentially 
causing issues with charging.

The best way is measuring the amount of current and shut off the charger when 
you hit about 2% (New battery) of the battery bank capacity.

Many people make two mistakes when setting up the flexnet dc...

1.      Leaving the absorb timer set at default... this will cause the flexnet 
dc to think the batts are full and will reset the soc to 100% early.

2.      Not forcing a manual full charge prior to connecting the Flexnet DC... 
The Flexnet DC when first powered up will assume a full 100% state on the 
batteries.  Many battery guys know that when they first install them they are 
usually only at 60-80% SOC.   This will cause incorrect measurements of SOC 
from day one.

Hope this helps.





Steve Higgins
Technical Services Manager
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[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Wayne Irwin
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:15 PM
To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
Subject: [RE-wrenches] 24V Rolls Charging Parameters?

Hello Wrenches,

Please provide your opinions on the proper charging voltages (e.g. bulk, float, 
eq,), and recommended durations.

The bank consists of 12 - Rolls 8CS25P (820AH @ 20hr rate) (4 strings of 3). 
Design based partly on budget limitations.

FYI. The system is off grid and consists of an 8KW array, 2 - OB VFX 3524 
Inv's. and 5 - OB MX80 CC's.

I have general parameters programmed based on AH's but would like to have 
additional opinions/suggestions to compare and/or see if there is something 
that I have missed.

I have not yet received any feedback from Rolls tech support ..... James?

Thanks in advance for your help,


Wayne Irwin,
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