Allan:

Welcome to the world of PV design. This is why customers need experienced designers and installers. The out-of-work electrician with new magnetic door signs that say "and Solar" will most likely be unable to finesse this design. A good portion of my work is following these types around and repairing their designs and installations.

It's all about compromise and working within the constraints you are given: If you must have strings of three, you either have to install 15 or 18 modules. 15 does not divide evenly between two racks. If you must have 15 modules, then divide the racks into racks of 6 and 9 (DPW can likely accommodate this).

If you can have 18, then two racks of 9. Continue the decision process until you have a design that works and the client will approve.

Sure we'd all like to be able to purchase one system that does everything: equipment that communicates between chassis and the outside world, has umpteen hundreds of volts PV input, accepts a wide range of generator power and start schemes, has multiple AC inputs, can grid tie, can AC couple, is efficient, is reliable and is inexpensive, but we have to work with what is available.

Good luck,

William



At 10:41 AM 12/16/2012, you wrote:
Wrenches,
Please tell me if I'm overlooking something, in what appears to be a design weakness:

I would like to use an Outback Radian system for a standard GTBB system. In order to take full advantage of the system's capabilities, I have to use all of Outback's main components; in this case the FM60 or FM80 charge controller. The problem is that the most common (and lower-cost) modules today are 60-cell, meaning 20 Vnominal. Given the 150V DC hard maximum voltage limit of the FM-series charge controller, in our cold climate I can only use these 20V modules in 60 Vnominal series strings; that is, in multiples of three modules. As the Radian is (wisely) offered in 48V only, pairs of modules would provide too low a voltage, and series strings of four modules would exceed 150 Voc in cold weather.

The base Midnite Classic 150 will safely operate to 198 VDC in this application, but it won't communicate with the Mate3.

Is this a fundamental design limitation in the Radian system, suggesting that Outback is due for a controller upgrade, or am I missing something obvious? It appears that arrays and racks have to be sized in ~720-watt sets of three-module series strings, which can be problematic in some designs. In the design in question I would like to use 16 240W modules on two 8-module pole-top racks (for seasonal adjustability); nothing in sets of three meets the customer's output and aesthetic needs.

Any solutions would be welcome.
Thank you,
Allan
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