In the past, I've used 1/4" SS pop rivets. Two per foot which means you have to 
drill new holes to either side of the existing hole in the foot. They have a 
shear strength of about 2500 lbs per rivet.   If this is a parallel to the roof 
mount, they should work fine. I use Direct Power racks, so I don't know if they 
are thicker or stronger than the others, but I'm sure they are as good or 
better. I believe our purlins were 0.62" thick. Certainly some kind of gooey is 
needed for a seal between the foot and the roof. Lots of different flavors or 
those, most of them good.
Good Luck, Bob-O

On Oct 21, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Solarguy wrote:

We have had good luck with a drill & tap attachment directly thru the purlins.
I first researched thread pullout strength in steel on the www using 5/16-18 SS 
bolts. I copped a short section of standard gauge C-purlin from a local steel 
erection company and did my own simple pullout testing. I don’t have the 
calculations at hand but I recall that the purlin was .090 thick which allowed 
almost two full threads in the steel. It was considerably more pullout strength 
than lags in wood.
We would have used 5/16-24 bolts but fine thread is not available in SS in that 
small size according to our supplier.  
We rented the smallest magnetic-base drill press available and attached it to a 
heavy steel plate since the mag wouldn’t stick to the sheet steel roof. The 
plate has to be large enough to get both feet on to hold it flat which assures 
that the drilled hole doesn’t wallow out from the drill moving around. I also 
used a tap guide that assured the tap went in straight and the threads were 
clean.
Etrna-Bond® tape on the bottom of a Snapnrac L foot attached directly to the 
roof after clearing metal chips with a can of compressed air. The thick sealant 
tape made an accurate torque value hard to verify, I ended up just going by 
feel rather than waiting for the click. We ended up with 2 attachments per 81” 
rail and 2 landscape modules per pair of rails.
I’m completely confident in the installation and will use it again if the need 
comes along.
My 2¢ [after 18 years as a machinist and toolmaker] on self-tapping screws for 
a critical load like this is I would never consider it. The fit will be sloppy 
and the more oversize or out-of-round your hole the less thread engagement 
exists. I was disappointed that my bolt supplier could/would not bother to look 
for the pullout calcs for me but maybe yours will.
The method I describe is labor intensive but it works if done properly.
 
Jim Duncan
North Texas Renewable Energy Inc
www.ntrei.com
NABCEP PV 031310-57
TECL-27398
nt...@1scom.net
817.917.0527
 
 
 
 
 
From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Chris Mason
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 8:22 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Steel roof attachments
 
I have a large steel roof project to install that is giving me some problems. 
There are many locations so no one is the same.
Most of the roofs are steel sheet over steel purloins with no insulation. The 
steel sheeting is lying right on top of the purloins. 
Can I use a self drilling self tapping screw to attach? Who makes one large 
enough?
In some cases I get get to the underneath but working off 30' ladders to make 
each attachment is too labour intensive as the warehouses are full of goods..
 
In the case of the roofs that have foam filled panels or corrugated I will have 
to use EJOT fasteners but these seem overkill for steel on steel fastening, 
they are very expensive.

Thanks for the help,
-- 
Chris Mason
President, Comet Systems Ltd
www.cometenergysystems.com
Cell: 264.235.5670
Skype: netconcepts
 
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