Larry,

It sounds like the customer can power all loads with the generator and the non-critical load may even be the motivation for starting the generator? How about a relay that opens the SunnyBoy output or the Sunny Island input when the generator runs?

Kent Osterberg
Blue Mountain Solar, Inc.
www.bluemountainsolar.com
t: 541-568-4882


On 2/18/2012 6:03 AM, Larry Brown wrote:
Wrenches,

I have a client with a 4.6 kw grid tied system using a Sunny Boy 6000 inverter. 
 We have AC Coupled to that system with 2 Sunny Island 5048's and 8-Concorde 
SunXtender 3050T 6 volt batteries in series feeding an essential load/critical 
load sub panel.  The wiring to the sub panel from the Sunny Islands is #6, the 
max wire size that can be used in the AC 1 and AC 2, in and out, of the Sunny 
Islands.  The 2 pole breaker at the sub panel is 70 amps ( 56 amps feed through 
current x 1.25 = 70 amps ).
This allow the 4.6 kw solar system and the Sunny Boy 6000 to act as a micro 
grid and charge the batteries and support the loads in the SubPanel when the 
grid is down and still be isolated from the main service panel and the grid.

We have moved several loads from the main 200 amp service panel into the 
essential load/critical load panel, the well pump, the refrigerator, the 
circulator/boiler controls for the propane fired radiant heating system and 
some lights and communication circuits.

The main 200 amp main service panel has an integrated manual transfer switch 
that has allowed them to fire up the gas powered Honda generator and run all of 
the loads when the grid was down before we installed any systems to their home. 
 They would like to be able to continue to do this in an extended power outage.

So here is the question?  In a power outage, if they fire up the generator and 
move the manual transfer switch in the Main Service Panel to generator, the 
Sunny Islands will see this generator power coming from the Main Service Panel 
and switch from Back Up Mode to Pass Through Mode.  The Sunny Boy 6000 will 
send any excess power not used by the loads to the the generator (as if it was 
a net metering arrangement ) believing it is the grid. This would probably 
destroy the generator or some other disasterous scenario.

So how can the generator feeding the Main Service panel be isolated from the 
Sunny Islands and Sunny Boy feeding the SubPanel as a micro grid in a power 
outage and still provide power to the loads that are in the Main Service Panel?

Thank you for the collective wisdom and knowledge that this group has acquired 
from years in the trenches making it all happen.

Larry

Larry Brown
Sun Mountain
NABCEP Certified PV Installer


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