Again, with all due respect, the don't talk to anyone with less than 50 
installs is a bit extreme and quite frankly a little arrogant.


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On Oct 9, 2011, at 12:31 PM, North Texas Renewable Energy Inc wrote:

> With all due respect to your experience in California Joel, total 
> installations is not a very accurate indicator of ability in todays PV 
> industry imho. A good start is how many years have you been in the business, 
> really in the business. This does not include the PV pump in your koi pond 
> but real verifiable, green-tagged installs. 20+ year electrical contractors 
> with a half-dozen installs don't count either. NABCEP certification is 
> another excellent filter but several ECs around here simply hired a NABCEP 
> cert to be able to fly the logo. 
> 
> I have sat through Bill Brooks classes almost as many times as John Wiles 
> classes. Just spent 8 hours in a James Stallcup Sr. class in  Austin Friday 
> and had lunch Saturday with the 25 year Exec. Dir. of treia.org. My www site 
> doesn't emphasize the number of installs but it does show a list of training 
> classes, and conferences etc I have attended over the  last 18 years.
> 
> I won't go into the politics of why Texas is a decade behind the leading edge 
> of PV in the US but I probably don't have to when you consider our political 
> situation here. And our working with TREIA at the state capitol for the last 
> 6 years "greasing the skids" in favor of pro-RE legislation gives a whole new 
> perspective on those politics. There's a reason SEIA & SEPA brought SPI to 
> Dallas.
> 
> And since you mentioned it, I don't know how many Wrenches will be at SPI in 
> Dallas but be sure to check out the pulled pork sandwiches and 
> "first-drink-free" meetup at Poor Davids Pub on the 19th from 6-9. It's 
> sponsored by the Texas Solar Energy Society and it's just a couple of blocks 
> from the big show. We'll be looking for NABCEP shirts.
> 
> Jim Duncan
> North Texas Renewable Energy
> NABCEP Certified Solar PV
> Installer No.031310-57
> TECL 27398
> nt...@1scom.net 
> 817.917.0527
> www.ntrei.com
> 
> 
> Dear Jesse,
> 
> 1. Go to the Dallas solar exhibition and spend a lot of time on the floor
> talking to real engineers with field experience (not salespeople). First
> question to ask is "How many PV systems have you installed?" Anyone with
> less than 50 systems under their belt is either reading from the book or
> still in training.
> 
> 2. Attend a Bill Brooks training session. Bill has strong opinions that some
> wrenches disagree with but has seen more PV installations than over 99% of
> the people on Earth and has spend decades thinking about what is good and
> bad PV.
> 
> 3. Meet with and walk the exhibit floor with and talk shop day and night
> with as many wrenches as you can (at least 3 a day).
> 
> 4. Go to the exhibits all the time they are open and keep your ears open.
> Wrenching is parts and the people who put parts together. Only go to
> sessions and workshops when the exhibits are closed.
> 
> 5. Don't become a true believer in any one part or one way to put parts
> together. There are many good and bad parts and techniques. The quest is
> finding something better.
> 
> Have fun.
> Joel Davidson
> "Not all change is for the better, but nothing gets better without change."
> 
> 
> 
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