At the risk of sounding sarcastic (and I assure this is not my intent) .. to 
allow a DC appliance to wait and simply turn on when when necessary and not 
waste power when it is off would take a battery ..  internal or external to the 
appliance.

Something has to keep the appliance powered.  The best we can do is minimize 
the idle power consumption.

"Super capacitors" can provide some degree of backup for very low-power needs 
(micro-watts), but they too will go dead over time if not used, or when given a 
long-term power draw without being recharged (sounds like a battery again .. 
no?).

Dan


--- On Thu, 9/1/11, Darryl Thayer <daryl_so...@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Darryl Thayer <daryl_so...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] unique battery bank design question
To: "RE-wrenches" <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
Date: Thursday, September 1, 2011, 5:01 PM

I am both interested in the idle power, and the operating efficiency

This often comes up, but what does it require to allow a DC appliance to wait 
and simply turn on when when necessary and not waste power when it is off?  
Darryl



From: Exeltech <exelt...@yahoo.com>
To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2011 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] unique battery bank design question
 




Hi Jason,

Well designed off-the-shelf converters can achieve 90% efficiency, and as you 
mention, this will vary a bit depending on the rated output current of the 
converter vs. the actual load current.

I've designed and built  24V @ 25A to 12V @ 50A converters for my own use that 
are in the 95% realm.

Your mileage may vary.

Dan


--- On Thu, 9/1/11, Jason Szumlanski <ja...@fafcosolar.com> wrote:


From: Jason Szumlanski <ja...@fafcosolar.com>
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] unique battery bank design question
To: "RE-wrenches" <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
Date: Thursday, September 1, 2011, 3:07 PM






Dan,
 
What kind of efficiency level (%) can you get out of a DC-DC supply on a small 
load, say <5A @ 12V with a 48V->12V converter? Is the efficiency level highly 
variable depending on load as a percentage of the converter’s maximum capacity, 
or is it pretty constant?
 
I run into this once in a while, so this piece of information would help me 
make some better decisions.
 
Thanks,
 
Jason Szumlanski
Fafco Solar 


 
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