Darryl,

Lead acid battery typically recommended bulk charge is 10-15% of C20 for the 
flooded lead acid and 20 -25% of C20 for the sealed valve regulated lead acid.  
Depending the application and the environment, these rates could be optimized, 
on a case by case basis. As the battery voltage raise to the absorption voltage 
(regulation voltage), the current automatically tappers due to the PWM or MPPT 
regulation.
Off-grid standalone PV systems optimum designs feature 5-days autonomy at 80% 
DOD at the worst month-average low temperature. Off-grid PV-genset hybrids 
optimum designs typically feature 2 to 3 days autonomy at 80% DOD same 
conditions.  The purpose of the large battery bank is to take the best 
advantage of the solar energy when it is available to store Ah in the battery 
for a desired power supply system power availability level. So the maximum 
current available from the PV array, after powering the load, is not wasted and 
sent into the battery during bulk charge and then tapered in as the voltage 
raise.

Lithium-ion batteries charge mode have certain benefits in some well-defined 
applications requiring fast charge with the requirement of a BMS.

John

From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Darryl Thayer
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:44 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium Ion Phosphate for grid back up

One of the advantages of LiFeP is the fast rechange rate.  I have found that 
fast recharge is very hard on LA batteries, if they are recharged faster they 
fail sooner.  Perhaps Jamie or others could answer is there something that can 
be recharged fast?  Capasitors are almost impossible to work with.  Lead 
carbon? Ni Magnisum Cobalt?
From: Jeff Oldham <starpowe...@juno.com>
To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium Ion Phosphate for grid back up
I 2nd what Ray Waters is saying. Much too soon, BMS will be an insane 
challenge, we rarely care about weight and footprint like the EV's do. 
Returning defective cells to China IF they accept responsibility for the 
failure - I don't think so!! Sex appeal is overwhelming good judgement, one of 
the curses of our industry.


>From the Solar, Wind and Hydro powered office of Jeff Oldham/Regenerative 
>SOLutions


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