Hi Howe,
Why are you still interested in the original IG? We've had a fairly high failure rate with the original IG and I wouldn't recommend going back to them unless you're getting some sort of amazing inventory clearance price... We have over 100 IG+s in the field with only two failures to date. Both just wouldn't turn on at all. -August *From:* re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Philip Boutelle *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:44 AM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Fronius IG vs IG Plus inverters I replaced the IG at my house 5 times under warranty (the circuit board failure that William described, no fires just some internal melting) before finally getting them to give me an IG+, which has been working flawlessly now for almost 2 years. As a company we replaced all of the IGs we installed--a dozen or so--many repeatedly. We never got an IG+ upgrade for our customers. -Phil On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Jimmy Thompson <ji...@southern-energy.com> wrote: All I have had good experiences with the IG Plus. It is easy to work with and the different power stages make for a more efficient inverter. The IG however is not very good in my opinion. The groundfault cards tend to go bad due to poor ventilation. Dust and dirt tends to get trapped inside the inverter. With that being said, Fronius always sent a replacement and was very helpful anytime I called. On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Howie Michaelson <ho...@suncatchervt.com> wrote: William, Thanks for the clarification on the disconnect - I vaguely remember this issue with Fronius we used in the distant past. As I remember, several manufacturers' early integrated disconnects were this way. All, Anyone else have a particularly poor track record with Fronius? Worse with the IG vs. the Plus? Howie -- Howie Michaelson NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ Catamount Solar, LLC Renewable Energy Systems Sales and Service VT Solar & Wind Incentive Program Partner http://www.CatamountSolar.com 802-272-0004 On Tue, June 28, 2011 1:21 pm, William Miller wrote: > Howie: > > The IG has an integrated disconnect section, but it the electronics are > not > removable from the disconnect. Therefore it is not safe to replace an IG > unless it is dark or you can tarp the modules. > > The Plus series has two chassis that mate. You can turn of the DC and > remove the electronics for repair, which we have had to do all too often. > > We had an IG burst into flames and scared the heck out of the widow who > was > home alone. She called the fire department and then called us. Sure we > get replacement inverters for the asking, but we get tired of asking. > > Wm > > > > At 10:14 AM 6/28/2011, you wrote: >>Thanks for the feedback Kistopher. 1 question: I thought that the IG >>also came with the integrated AC/DC disco as well as the IG Plus. I know >>the IG doesn't come with the string fusing. Am I missing something here? >> >>Thanks, >>Howie >>-- >>Howie Michaelson >>NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ >> >>Catamount Solar, LLC >>Renewable Energy Systems Sales and Service >>VT Solar & Wind Incentive Program Partner >>http://www.CatamountSolar.com >>802-272-0004 >> >> >> >>On Tue, June 28, 2011 1:00 pm, Kristopher Schmid wrote: >> > I have used both recently. The IG Plus is nice for two reasons: the >> > integrated DC disconnect and the onboard string fusing/combining >> > capability. Their tech support has been easy to work with and have >> > reimbursed me for labor when needed with no questions asked. >> > >> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Howie Michaelson >> > <ho...@suncatchervt.com>wrote: >> > >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> Anyone care to relate the differences (pros/cons) of the Fronius IG >> vs. >> >> IG >> >> Plus inverters? Haven't used either and haven't dealt with Fronius >> in 5 >> >> or 6 years. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Howie >> >> -- >> >> Howie Michaelson >> >> NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ >> >> >> >> Catamount Solar, LLC >> >> Renewable Energy Systems Sales and Service >> >> VT Solar & Wind Incentive Program Partner >> >> http://www.CatamountSolar.com >> >> 802-272-0004 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> List sponsored by Home Power magazine >> >> >> >> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >> >> >> Options & settings: >> >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> >> >> List-Archive: >> >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> >> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> >> >> Check out participant bios: >> >> www.members.re-wrenches.org >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Thanks, >> > Kris Schmid >> > >> > Legacy Solar, LLC >> > 864 Clam Falls Trail >> > Frederic, WI 54837 >> > 715-653-4295 >> > www.legacysolar.com >> > sol...@legacysolar.com >> > _______________________________________________ >> > List sponsored by Home Power magazine >> > >> > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> > >> > Options & settings: >> > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> > >> > List-Archive: >> > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> > >> > List rules & etiquette: >> > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> > >> > Check out participant bios: >> > www.members.re-wrenches.org >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>List sponsored by Home Power magazine >> >>List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >>Options & settings: >>http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >>List-Archive: >>http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >>List rules & etiquette: >>www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >>Check out participant bios: >>www.members.re-wrenches.org >> >> >> >>----- >>No virus found in this message. >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1516/3731 - Release Date: 06/28/11 > > William Miller > Miller Solar > Voice :805-438-5600 > email: will...@millersolar.com > http://millersolar.com > License No. C-10-773985 > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org -- Jimmy Thompson, Design Support NABCEP PV Certified Installer Southern Energy Management (O) 919.836.0330 (F) 919.836.0305 (C) 919.795.6649 101 Kitty Hawk Drive Morrisville, NC 27560 www.southern-energy.com _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
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