Who are these distributers in MN? I would like contact them.
Jesse Sent from my iPhone On Mar 26, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Dan Fink <dan...@hughes.net> wrote: > Hello esteemed Wrenches; > > I have been absolutely swamped with inquiries about small, non-UL listed (or > "UL listing pending") direct PV grid-tie inverters in the last few weeks. It > appears they are arriving in a flood from China and being sold on Ebay, and > by other online retailers. They are also being incorporated into home solar > products, such as window coverings that have PV cells on the outside, > portable PV systems for renters to reduce their bills, etc. > > The common theme here is that these devices "plug into any wall outlet and > reduce your utility bill." > > My questions for the group are; > > ~ Can any energy-generating device, even if it *was* UL 1741 listed, comply > with the NEC if it plugs into a wall outlet instead of being hard-wired to > the breaker panel? For example, a homeowner wiring a 120VAC plug onto an > Enphase and running the cord in through the window. > > ~ An argument raised by one distributer of these inverters was, "Well, here > in (minnesota) the customer owns all the wiring in their house up to the > utility feed. So they can plug in anything they want into the house outlets, > whether UL listed or not, as long as they don't have a net metering agreement > with the utility...because this inverter does not sell electricity to the > utility, it only compensates for house usage." > Doesn't 1741 still apply here? > > ~ What about latching meters? I understand that some types of utility meter > will count all generation from the house circuits as electricity used. > > ~ Does this stuff scare you folks as badly as it scares me? Sounds like the > double-male 120VAC plugs from Y2K. > > I sure would appreciate some clarification on UL 1741 from the group, > though....specifically regarding plugging generation equipment of any sort > into a wall outlet. > > -- > Dan Fink > Executive Director; > Buckville Energy Consulting > Buckville Publications LLC > NABCEP / IREC / ISPQ accredited Continuing Education Providers > http://www.buckville.com/ > i...@buckville.com > 970.672.4342 (voicemail) > 970.373.1311 (fax) > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
