I have a temp roof built at school at a 45 degree angle and we get snow build 
up if we get over 4 inches or so.  Any less and it usually melts. 

Pole mounts seem fine here as well. 

Jesse

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On Jan 3, 2011, at 3:09 PM, toddc...@finestplanet.com wrote:

> Snow removal never seems to be an issue as in the winter the panels are at a 
> steep enough angle to shed any buildup. Around the Mount Shasta (we got 6' in 
> 3 days last winter) the only problem I have encountered is when there is so 
> much snow so that when the slide off the modules builds up a pile tall enough 
> to meet the bottom of the array, no more will slide. It then needs to be 
> manually removed. This is why my pole mounts typically have the bottom edge 
> of the array at maximum winter tilt at least 6' off the ground.
> 
> Todd
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, January 3, 2011 12:19pm, "Jesse Dahl" <dahlso...@gmail.com> said:
> 
> The snow removal system really interests me.  Being in northern Minnesota, we 
> get a lot of it. I have one student that is responsible for snow removal now, 
> but I haven't come up with anything else. I will be watching this thread 
> intently!
> 
> Jesse 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 3, 2011, at 8:10 AM, "Jason Szumlanski" <ja...@fafcosolar.com> wrote:
> 
>> One idea would be to put each microinverter on a separate A/C circuit and 
>> measure the current using a device like an eGauge or a revenue grade 
>> metering device. That would give you backup/redundancy for the Enphase 
>> numbers. With 16 modules/circuits in your system, that’s not too difficult 
>> to monitor.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> For the second system, what about putting the system on a tracking rack that 
>> tilts to vertical once a day in the morning to dump snow. We don’t deal with 
>> much snow down here in Florida, so I’m not sure if that would 100% dump the 
>> snow off and how ice accumulation is dealt with… Born in Winnipeg, but left 
>> the snow behind many years ago…
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Jason Szumlanski
>> 
>> Fafco Solar
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
>> [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Rob Harlan
>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 1:25 AM
>> To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Reference PV System
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> I am working with the City of Edmonton, Alberta to develop a reference 
>> system.  The intent is to provide accurate data for owners of systems within 
>> the city limits to use to verify their system performance.  It is seen as a 
>> great way to insure quality installations under their municipal grant 
>> program, as well as a way to provide some real life performance data for 
>> system sizing and installation recommendations. The City is considering 
>> tying the dispersal of system grants to  verified performance.  (We are 
>> hoping to eventually have a municipal performanced-based FIT,  but until 
>> then...)  
>> 
>> At this point the plan is to permanently install modules at eight different 
>> orientations to imitate common installations:
>> 
>> True South 18.4 degrees ( Equivalent to a 4 in 12 pitch roof)
>> True South 26.6 degrees (Equivalent to a 6 in 12 pitch roof)
>> True South 45.0 degrees (Equivalent to a 12 in 12 pitch roof)
>> True South 53.0 degrees (Latitude)
>> True South 70.0 degree pitch (the estimated best angle for year round 
>> performance in Edmonton when snow is not removed)
>> True south 90 degree pitch (Equivalent to a vertical wall installation)
>> SE 18.4 degrees ( Equivalent to a 4 in 12 pitch roof)
>> SW 18.4 degrees ( Equivalent to a 4 in 12 pitch roof)
>> 
>> We will probably install two modules at each orientation to provide 
>> redundancy to back up possible equipment malfunction. Each module will have 
>> its own micro-inverter uploading data to a website.  The system will be 
>> installed on a municipal building, probably a firehouse.
>> 
>> We are also considering installing a second, identical system which would 
>> have snow removed once a day (at daybreak).  This would provide owners 
>> considering snow removal with comparative  data.  The challenge here is how 
>> to consistently remove accumulated snow.  We probably will not be able to 
>> get municipal staff to carry this out so we are looking into automated 
>> systems.
>> 
>> So gentlemen I would love to get your thoughts:
>> 
>> Anybody familiar with PV reference systems developed by other 
>> municipalities?   Have they been successful?
>> Have you found the Enphase Envoy to be consistently accurate?
>> 
>> Does anyone have a reliable automatic snow removal scheme with a track 
>> record?  We are putting it out to the University of Alberta mechanical 
>> engineering department to see what they come up with but I know this has 
>> been grappled with many times before.
>> 
>> Thanks much in advance for your input.
>> Rob
>> Rob Harlan
>> Executive Director
>> Solar Energy Society of Alberta
>> www.solaralberta.ca
>> off...@solaralberta.ca
>> (780) 439-5608
>> 
>> 
>> 
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