Yes Jamie: I understood what you were saying, and that is too bad. Maybe the sales guys are complete fools, or they are dishonest, or the customer's are misunderstanding what is being said. However, due to the major advantages to offering Enphase, you should consider adding it to your product line. Therefore, you will be on an even playing field, even if folks are providing misinformation. If you offer the product, but are honest about the limitations, they will probably believe you more than if you don't offer the product.
Nick Soleil Project Manager Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC PO Box 657 Petaluma, CA 94953 Cell: 707-321-2937 Office: 707-789-9537 Fax: 707-769-9037 ________________________________ From: Jamie Johnson <jjohn...@spefl.com> To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 5:25:29 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase v. string inverter Nick, 50+% greater output with enphase than unshaded kWh estimates with a string inverter? That is what my comment referenced, the practice of some installers of taking pvwatts with a 0.85 derate(no shading) & multiplying it by 1.5 or more just to get the sale. A kWh performance guarantee standard would eliminate this practice. Other industries have similar standards to insure the customers receive what they paid for, why not PV? Jamie Johnson General Manager SOLAR POWER ELECTRIC TM NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer #031310-118 (941) 380 - 0098 www.SPEFL.com FL State Certified # EC13001765 Sent from my iPhone On Oct 11, 2010, at 12:50 AM, Nick Soleil <nicksoleilso...@yahoo.com> wrote: The main advantage of Enphase is the module level monitoring. However, the increased output due to partial shading can be significant. I was at a 6 year old PV site this week, and a tree had grown up near the base of the roof. Branches were casting a few minor shadows on the array, but was wiping out 75% of the production. I can assure you, those 9 modules would have been producing '50+% greater output' >Nick Soleil >Project Manager >Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC >PO Box 657 >Petaluma, CA 94953 >Cell: 707-321-2937 >Office: 707-789-9537 >Fax: 707-769-9037 > > > > > ________________________________ From: Jamie Johnson <jjohn...@spefl.com> >To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> >Sent: Sun, October 10, 2010 5:38:55 AM >Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase v. string inverter > > >Marco, > > >The last I heard the NREL was testing enphase vs. a string inverter, they were >also suppose to test enphase vs. A competitors module level mpp tracking. Not >sure if that performance test is complete yet. > > >I have seen 1 independent unshaded test ( potentially biased ) which IIRC >showed >enphase ~1% less than a string inverter, this seems to match the inverters CEC >rating. > > >What we see around here is an over estimate of kWh production by the selling >contractor using enphase, sometimes by 50+% greater than unshaded kWh >estimates. > > >Performance guarantees with monetary compensation back to the customer if >estimates are not met can be a good thing and improve the industry IMHO. > > >Jamie Johnson >General Manager >SOLAR POWER ELECTRIC TM >NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer #031310-118 >(941) 380 - 0098 >www.SPEFL.com >Commercial & Residential >FL State Certified # EC13001765 > > >Sent from my iPhone > > >On Oct 9, 2010, at 7:07 PM, "Marco Mangelsdorf" <ma...@pvthawaii.com> wrote: > > >Does anyone know of any reports out there from a neutral, 3rd party which >compares an Enphase array with an array using a string inverter with both >arrays >on the same unshaded surface? >> >>Some Enphase peddlers here are saying that the energy harvest from an Enphase >>system is going to be better since they supposedly come on sooner and stay on >>later in the day. >> >>One guy is actually saying that the Enphase inverters come on before the sun >>comes over the horizon. Maybe from the same family that claimed that a-Si >>modules produced power from the moonlight. >> >>Thanks, >>marco >> _______________________________________________ >List sponsored by Home Power magazine > >List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > >Options & settings: >http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > >List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > >List rules & etiquette: >www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > >Check out participant bios: >www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > _______________________________________________ >List sponsored by Home Power magazine > >List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > >Options & settings: >http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > >List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > >List rules & etiquette: >www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > >Check out participant bios: >www.members.re-wrenches.org > >
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