I second Travis's comments and add "I do not have the confidence to install this unit at my home due to the lack of positive or current information". I also add that "it is a mechanical device and like your car or truck it will definitely need regular service. Are you prepared to deal with this or have me deal with it for you?"
Finding the perfect wind gen is like the perfect car or truck . It has not and will not ever be built. Some are better than others and none are perfect. Thanks, Dana Orzel Great Solar Works, Inc E - d...@solarwork.com V - 970.626.5253 F - 970.626.4140 C - 970.209.4076 web - www.solarwork.com "Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Travis Creswell Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 3:46 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] wind scam? Sorry to chime in late. Even though I'm not familiar with the turbine in question I agree with others are saying and I would like to offer a suggestion in hopes that it will help others as much as has me. I finally realized that the there was no way to convince most people that the wind turbine they were asking about wasn't the one that had figured what thousands of others before them couldn't. I also realized that most people think I'm an fool when I tell them that the fancy website full of expertly wordsmithed press releases and pictures of the wind turbine in question with a celebrity/high level government officials (Ed, Jay, Arnold) are taking a lot of liberties with the truth and the laws of physics. For me personally I've found that it's very effective and respectful to reply to these inquiries with something similar to the following. "I not familiar with it, you should ask the dealer or factory for names and addresses of the ones installed closest to you. I would certainly spend at least an afternoon or more visiting an owner at his house investigating something I was about to spend $xxxx or more on. If it's not been installed for at least 12 months or if they don't or won't discuss their actual production data with you then I think you know all you need to know" That's all I say and politely make it clear I've got nothing else to say about that matter because that's all know. It's easier to just play dumb. Never argue with an idiot, etc. Of course, I always throw the standard bit about conservation first and checking around locally for a home energy auditor, etc. Most folks immediately get the idea; give up their quest for the perfect wind turbine and I doubt spend much more time on the idea of wind or conservation. Hope that helped someone. Best, Travis Creswell Ozark Energy Services _____ From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Chris Daum Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 1:40 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: [RE-wrenches] wind scam? With all the alleged information on their web site, I couldn't find any power curves. And their "contact us" form was only for folks who had purchased their turbines. Let the buyer beware! Chris Daum Oasis Montana Inc. _____ From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Roy Butler Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:39 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] wind scam? Todd, We're still waiting for verifiable 3rd party energy production data on this turbine. Until that happens, this turbine stays on my "not ready for prime time" list. As of today, Helix has not seen fit to file a notice of intent to certify with the SWCC. Keep an eye on that list and the eventual certified turbine list, both will be very helpful in the future for weeding out the scams. www.smallwindcertification.org "Revolutionary" may be a good description for kinetic lawn art but doesn't tell us a thing about it's ability to produce kilowatt hours to the grid. What is it about human nature that makes people believe that the weirder the design, the better it must be? And that "breakthrough" technology is the best technology? Have fun with this customer! Roy Butler NABCEP Certified Solar PV InstallerR NYSERDA eligible PV & wind installer PA Sunshine Program Approved PV Installer Four Winds Renewable Energy, LLC 8902 Route 46 Arkport, NY 14807 607-324-9747 www.four-winds-energy.com Although no trees were killed in the sending of this message, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. On 7/24/2010 12:36 PM, Todd Cory wrote: Sorry to bother the list with this kind of BS, but I have a client who insists this is a revolutionary wind machine design that is not a yard art scam. Feedback? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9flSPAdOLk No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3030 - Release Date: 07/27/10 00:09:00
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