The Schuco 180 sounds like a good match for the discontinued Solarworld 175. ANybody tried that?
R. Walters r...@solarray.com Solar Engineer On May 19, 2010, at 3:25 PM, Dave Palumbo wrote: > Joel, > > Schuco – Good German quality, wide range of modules, good energy output > tolerance, good availability, good pricing. Company appears to be solid, > which is important to me. I’m presently designing several systems around the > Schuco MPE 180 MS05 “Black Line” modules, -0%/+5% tolerance, 36Vmp which I > like, and this module can be handled by one installer (31.8” 62.2” 33 lbs), 5 > yr full product warranty and 25 year power warranty. We also use the Schuco > MPE 225’s. > > Systems needing greater power density get the Sanyo 215N’s same physical size > as above and are rated at 35 more Watts. Sanyo’s cost me a $1.00 per Watt > more. Sanyo’s have a 20 year warranty which is behind the times for a top > quality module. > > Dave > From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org > [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Joel Davidson > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 11:09 AM > To: RE-wrenches > Subject: [RE-wrenches] PV Module Favorite (was Whats with Kyocera) > > Wrenches, > > I'd like to turn this discussion 180 degrees. I'm not manufacturing PV > modules (at the moment), but I'd like to know what is your favorite PV module > brand and model? What features and benefits are important? What do you like > about the manufacturer itself (not its warehouse distributors)? Are price, > power, and availability over 90 percent of the equation? What else really > matters? Thanks in advance for your comments. > > Joel Davidson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Loesch > To: RE-wrenches > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:10 AM > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Whats with Kyocera > > Ray, > > In addition to _your_ Rouges Big Three of > > Kyrocera > BP > Photowatt > > let me add _my_ recently discovered Rouges Big Three of > > Q-Cells > Sharp > Abound Solar > > which are being sold direct from the manufacturer to the end user. > > Seems like many manufacturers have lapses of conscience, some continuously > others intermittently. > > Thank you, > > Bill Loesch > Solar 1 - Saint Louis Solar > I would hope that other _distributors_ like AEE and manufacturers, like > Evergreen, continue to pass on their leads as long as the established > distribution channels remain in place. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: R Ray Walters > To: RE-wrenches > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 6:47 PM > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Whats with Kyocera > > Interesting, because we quit working with all three Manufacturers mentioned > for the following reasons: > Kyocera had that 1999 bad batch that is still giving them a bad name in the > back woods here. So glad I never sold those. > BP bought Solarex, and starting making crappy polycrystalline stuff, (and had > their own bad batches) we got tired of making excuses for under performance. > FInally, Photowatt in Albuquerque was selling to end users very small > quantities at our wholesale price. We didn't need the competition from a > supplier. Again they had some bad batches too. > These three companies have a long track record of bad service, bad products, > and poor performance. > With so many top quality modules available: Sunpower, SolarWorld, Sanyo..... > Why would any of you mess around selling > for a company that doesn't take care of you? > Just my opinion: you're only going to install so many systems this lifetime, > so don't put your name and reputation out on 2nd rate stuff. > > > R. Walters > r...@solarray.com > Solar Engineer > > > > > > On May 18, 2010, at 2:56 PM, Joel Davidson wrote: > > > In 2002, Kyocera cut off American distributors shortly after hosting their > distributor visit to Japan. Kyocera started shipping everything they could to > Germany where they were getting over $1/W more than in the US. BP Solar also > cut off American distributors. Remember BP distributor Mark Weidhaas in > Temecula? Photowatt also cut off American distributors. Remember Bernard > Stuart in Albuquerque? I'm sure wrenches can think of other foreign > manufacturers that left us high and dry. > > PV manufacturing is nowhere near maxed out. PV industry manufacturing > capacity utilization is now around 60%. > > See slide 2 > http://www.luthcommunications.com/uploads/Paula_Mints_presentation.pdf > > From: Keith Cronin <electrich...@yahoo.com> > To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> > Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 10:59:04 AM > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Whats with Kyocera > > I've heard alot of manu's are struggling or will be struggling to meet demand > this year- SunPower, Canadian and now it seems Kyocera. > > Who is next? > > Seems like 2006 all over again. > > From: Steven Lawrence <slawre...@smartenergygroup.net> > To: "re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> > Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 7:51:51 AM > Subject: [RE-wrenches] Whats with Kyocera > > It's the same thing here. They aren't taking any large orders from us. > > Steven Lawrence > NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer(tm) > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 18:22:27 -0700 > From: i2p <i...@aol.com> > To: "List for complaining about anything RE." > <re-bitch...@lists.re-wrenches.org> > Cc: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > Subject: [RE-wrenches] Whats with Kyocera? > Message-ID: <a1e17f2d.c667.4a0b.80d8.4725c3330...@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Without any word, they have stopped taking orders.! Not only could they not > fulfill an immediate need, they refused to even take a pretty nice order for > future delivery.???? > > > Who is still getting Kyocera? Whats the deal.? Are they dumping the small > accounts?? > > If you are still doing business with Kyocera, what size orders are you > placing.? Not looking for biz intelligence here, just respond as small , > medium or large. > > Thanks for comments and information. Just trying to figure out where to go > from here. Like I'm looking for a supplier who treats smaller shops with some > respect. My comments do not reflect on my salesperson at Kyocera who is very > upset by being forced to refuse orders. > > Don Loweburg > Offline Solar > > ******************************************* > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org >
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