Our Building Dept requires PE sign-off on all roof-mounts, so our engineer has evaluated a few trusses for us, and has never brought up an issue about lags. I'll ask him what he thinks about this. Most trusses are built all of 2x4's but some we've seen have 2x6 top chords, which are reassuring to see. If you are using something like QuickMounts, which typically use 5/16" lags or hanger bolts, and you have 2x6 material to penetrate, it's harder to imagine it could be an issue, than 3/8" lags into 2x4's. If you're having trusses built for new construction, your could try specifying 2x6 top chords from the truss co.

Bruce Erickson
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On Apr 27, 2010, at 8:50 AM, Max Balchowsky wrote:

When we talked to a manufacturer they wanted us to put supporting lumber on top of the roof to support the array rather than penetrate the truss with a lag bolt every 4'. We tried to get them to accept a "drill through" and a bolt with a fender washer. We abandoned the project.....

Max Balchowsky
SEE Systems
1048 Irvine Ave Suite 217
Newport Beach Ca. 92660

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----- Original Message ----
From: Richard L Ratico <richard.l.rat...@valley.net>
To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
Sent: Tue, April 27, 2010 7:27:08 AM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Lags & Trusses

Wow, this could be a hairball. Needless to say, we've all probably already done
this, more than a few times. But....as a former carpenter.... though claiming no
expert truss knowledge, my sense is that the top chord of the trusses should be
in compression. Therefore, a 3/8" diameter lag, for instance, would substitute
steel for wood in compression, not a bad move. The trusses should be very well
braced laterally by the roof deck. I don't see the problem.

Is the new roofing material being applied over existing roofing, applying
additional load? Are there circumstances that make this a special truss
application, cantilevers, slate roofing, etc.?

It would be interesting to talk directly with the manufacturer, to get their
entire scoop on the project. It may be an overly-cautious approach to liability
concerns. If starting from scratch, the truss manufacturer should be able to
design for whatever the application requires. Sistering boards to their trusses
might easily freak them out as well. Ask them what they would suggest. There are
lots of truss manufacturers if this one can't handle the job.

Dick Ratico
Solarwind Electric


--- You wrote:
Hello Wrenches,

I just talked to a carpenter, who we are installing an array for.  He
is putting a new roof on the building and was talking to the
manufacturer of the trusses.  He mentioned that he was having an
array installed on the roof.

The truss manufacturer said there were problems with weakening the
truss structure with the lag screw penetrations.  We are now planning
to sister boards next to his trusses instead of penetrating them.

Does this seem like a potential issue?  Is there any data on this?

Thanks,

Drake


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