Darryl,

Thanks for the information. Is the 1% / year strictly voltage degradation? If so, I think we should select our inverters to handle 20% voltage degradation since the modules have a warranty for at least 20 years. If 50% of the degradation is current and 50% voltage, then sizing for a 10% degradation might seem reasonable. Will modules actually put out usable power for 40 years? Should we take the long term into account?

Drake



At 06:16 PM 4/8/2010, you wrote:
Drake, I measured and published a paper in 1992 on the after 10 year performance of solar modules, my study concluded these modules degraded approximately 1% per year. The purpose of the study was the effect on utility demand.

I have heard there are some very good studies with similar results.

Thank you--Darryl

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From: Drake Chamberlin <drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org>
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Voltage degradation
To: "RE-wrenches" <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:24 AM

What is the documentation for 10% module voltage degradation? I have heard different ideas on what will degrade over how much time. For direct grid tie, I shoot for a voltage drop 1% maximum on the DC side.

Thanks,

Drake

At 11:08 AM 4/8/2010, you wrote:
I usually keep in mind that the modules will degrade by 10% However, if you are one of those wrenches promoting 3% DC Voltage Drops, maybe you should add some more.

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From: Drake Chamberlin <drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org>
To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 1:58:56 AM
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Voltage degradation

Esteemed Wrenches,

How much voltage overhead should we have available on our arrays to allow for inverters not to fall out of their DC voltage operating range? Since the module power degradation is 20% over the warranty period, I usually shoot for a module voltage that can drop 20% and still be within the MPPT range of the inverter under the average high temperatures, since most of the degradation is in voltage.

Am I being too conservative with this number? It always pushes the number of modules to the top of what is allowable on the string for the extreme low.

Thanks,

Drake Chamberlin
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