So you can get others to install your designs? I would never touch materials I do not sell, or install a system I did not design... and I am amazed anyone would.
Todd On Monday, December 21, 2009 12:56pm, "Brian White" <bri...@eagleroofing.com> said: > Thanks to all who have posted. > > To answer a couple of questions that have been posted. > > Eagle Roofing does not have a contractor's license, as we do not perform the > installation. We work with electrical contractors and roofing contractors in > the > area of a given project. Our services do include the design and documentation > of > the system, and "help" our partners pull the permit. > > We have tried several of the approaches mentioned here, i.e. the system > consist of > certified products, and why do we have to re-test certified products, etc. > However, this plan checker seems very firm on their position. Pressing > further, we > asked them to provide the criteria for the test they are requesting, and > amazingly > enough they could not produce any. They also said that just a wet stamp of the > plans would not suffice. > > We have completed previous installations in this local within the last year > and > were not faced with this requirement, even though it was originally adopted in > 2007. > > The following is a verbal description of what they want done; > > He said that a registered electrical engineer has to be onsite when the > installation of this system is completed. This engineer has to test the power > (wattage) and load (amps) to make sure that the output is within the > parameters of > which this system is design for, and finally this person has to write a report > with his PE stamp to certify that this system is working properly. > > We did get as far as to get him to agree that it did not seem relevant, as he > said > he was going to look into the ordinance a little further and might make some > revisions to it. However, for now, he won't budge on this ordinance because > it's > been in the city code before he came on board. > > Also, some additional system information. 3 strings of 38 PV Tiles (Suntech 50 > Watt BIPV Roof Tile) with one PV Powered 4800 Watt inverter in a grid tied > set up. > Not exactly a complex system. > > I will provide additional updates as I get them. > > Thanks again, > Brian C. White > Design Engineer - PV Systems > > Eagle Roofing Products > 120 North Auburn Street - Suite 212 > Grass Valley, CA 95945 > Phone: 530-273-2948 > Cell: 530-575-5550 > e-mail: bri...@eagleroofing.com <mailto:bri...@eagleroofing.com> > > > > ________________________________ > > From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org on behalf of William Miller > Sent: Fri 12/18/2009 3:05 PM > To: RE-wrenches > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar System Certification > > > Brian: > > I looked up the Municipal Codes > (http://www.ci.yorba-linda.ca.us/~ci26/how-do-i/get/get-city-codes) and this > requirement is right in there. I hope you have a provision in your contract > that > allows for additional billing for unanticipated engineering fees. Everyone > should. If you need language, contact me off line. > > Fortunately I have never experienced anything like this. This requirement > sounds > unreasonable. It is sort of like asking an air conditioning contractor to > have > the air conditioning unit tested in the field. Individual solar components > are > listed. The combining of the components is facilitated by the manufacturers > specifications and on-line sizing tools. Having said that, an amateur can > easily > screw the design and installation of even the most simple grid-tie system. > This > provision is the ultimate consumer protection. It sounds onerous at first but > does have a benefit. > > Good luck, and give us a hint how much this certification costs. > > William Miller > > > > > At 01:31 PM 12/18/2009, you wrote: > > > I am curious if any of you have had to deal with this issue before. > > The following is an item we got back from the City of Yorba Linda for a > Plan > Check correction: > > > All electrical solar systems shall be tested and approved by a > California > Registered Electrical Engineer. The engineer shall furnish a report stating > their name, registration number, its date of expiration, address where the > testing occurred and the dates of testing and approval. Such report shall be > presented to the City inspector for approval at the time of final inspection. > (YLMC 15.28.020) Note on the plans. > > All experiences and suggestion are appreciated. > > > > Best Regards, > Brian C. 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