I agree with Bob-O that we need to keep the off-grid system design in NABCEP. I recently installed a small off-grid system at a school in Haiti and had it reconfirmed that off-grid systems in the third world are so very important. Small systems like those installed by SELF, Solar Electric Light Fund, are the future not the past. http://www.self.org/
Lee Lee Bristol NABCEP Certified Solar Designer/Installer Chief Technology Officer Standard Solar Inc. 202 Perry Parkway, #7 Gaithersburg, MD 20877 (301) 944-5105 Direct (240) 479-1510 Cell (301) 944-1202 Fax leebris...@standardsolar.com On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:57 PM, <penobscotso...@midmaine.com> wrote: > Here, here Bob-O. > We, too, have seen no decrease in our off grid market as well. It is > rapidly becoming a specialized field here in Maine.(not talking about > you, Tump) Even our largest competitor is now sending off grid business > to us as they have had too many problems training competent installers > who understand the minutea(?) of battery physiology, proper gen > charging, etc. and just want to do the wam bam straight grid tie > systems. I appreciate NABCEP's (and your) insistence on continuing to > require off grid knowledge in order to be certified. Anything less > would be like certifying a mechanic who only knows about standard > transmissions in transmission repair. Your logic in continuing to > insist on battery based knowledge is important to our field. Thanks. > > Daryl > > > > > Hiya Ray, > > In my experience, off-grid is always as steady as it ever was except for > > the Y2K burp. Those of us who know how to design and install for that > > market will always have some work, even in a crappy economy. At NABCEP, > we > > take a lot of heat from all the new on-grid only installers who don't see > > or understand the value in learning about battery-based systems. They > > would like us to drop that part of the task analysis entirely from the > > Certification. I, for one, am resisting that insisting that's part of the > > overall trade. I'm concerned that if we certify installers without > testing > > for battery knowledge, they will go and install a battery based system > > sooner or later anyway and NABCEP will look like fools if they muck it > up. > > Bob-O > > > > > > On Nov 23, 2009, at 10:15 AM, R Ray Walters wrote: > > > > > > Funny, because although Off grid has remained relatively slow compared to > > the crazy GT market, its also been very steady. > > > > Ray > > > > On Nov 23, 2009, at 9:07 AM, wind...@wind-sun.com wrote: > > > >> Nearly everything so far that we have been seeing shortages in is in > >> off-grid equipment. We have not seen a huge increase or decrease in > >> off-grid, but apparently some of the mfg's decided there would be a big > >> drop. With the exception of a couple of particular models of inverters, > >> we have seen no real shortages in grid tie. > >> > >> > .................................................................................................. > >> Northern Arizona Wind & Sun - Electricity From The Sun Since 1979 > >> Solar Discussion Forum: http://www.wind-sun.com/ForumVB/ > >> > .................................................................................................. > > _______________________________________________ > > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > > > Options & settings: > > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > > > List-Archive: > > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > > > List rules & etiquette: > > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > > > Check out participant bios: > > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > -- Lee Bristol NABCEP Certified Solar Designer/Installer Chief Technology Officer Standard Solar, Inc. 202 Perry Parkway, #7 Gaithersburg, MD 20877 (301) 944-5105 (240) 479-1510 (c) www.standardsolar.com
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