We too have had good success with the 3600 RPM Kohler's. Although we don't care for the battery charging design for the starting battery.
Dave -----Original Message----- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Travis Creswell Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:27 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Propane Generator If I may humbly offer different opinion, I no longer specify 1800 RPM generators because they are ridiculously expensive to begin with and when the do break it's long after warranty and they are ridiculously expensive to fix. I've have been pleased with the 3600 RPM Kohler's. We've done numerous propane 12kW (which very nicely match up to a dual oven quad stack) and recently did a 17kW and other then a stuck fuel solenoid which was replaced under warranty by the local dealer at no charge they've been fine. It was completely off grid and we didn't catch any flax although we certainly did a few years ago so around here they seem to have slacked on the off grid no warranty thing. It boils down to simple math for me. We've inherited numerous 1800 RPM generators over the year. These customers have gotten $2000+ bills to replace to $5 relays (etc), some times within a few weeks of the last one. These 3600 RPM Kohlers cost less then $4k new including a pad, enclosure and shipping compared to a lot more for the 1800 RPM units. Put that $8k you save into PV and you'll very likely get 10+ trouble free years out of the 3600 RPM Kohlers. I've got several getting up to 5 yrs old now and they are still as strong as they were the day there were installed. They only get a few hundred hr's or year and a 1/3rd of those could be eliminated if the customers were better energy managers. Just my .02 and it may or may not work in anybody else's climate. Best, Travis Creswell Ozark Energy Services -----Original Message----- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Dana Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:42 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Propane Generator We use both ONAN & KOHLER. Last time I checked ONAN's smallest was 20KW/240 VAC. KOHLER had more smaller units. The lack of choice is due to EPA compliance and then I think the economy, but not sure on the latter. If it does not get too cold or could be installed indoors [as in a shed] diesel gets more watts / gallon but LPG is cleaner to deal with. Dana Orzel Great Solar Works, Inc www.solarwork.com E - d...@solarwork.com V - 970.626.5253 F - 970.626.4140 C - 970.209.4076 "I'd put my money on solar energy. I hope we don't have to wait 'til oil and coal run out before we tackle that." -Thomas Edison, in conversation with Henry Ford and Harvey Firestone, March 1931 -----Original Message----- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of roger dixon Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:31 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Propane Generator I use a military surplus 15 kW gasoline genset, converted to propane, and wired to an ATS for emergency backup power. I am grid connected, no batteries. It works fine and runs my entire house when I need it. If you want more details, please give me a call. Roger Dixon Certified Wind Site Assessor Skylands Renewable Energy, LLC 908.337.2057 cell 908.730.6474 fax roger.di...@skylandsre.com www.skylandsre.com . -----Original Message----- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Ian Woofenden Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:56 PM To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: [RE-wrenches] Propane Generator A client with a remote off-grid system and two OutBack FXs is looking for the right generator to buy. He prefers propane because they already have it on site. Any recommendations? 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