Three Questions:
1) Has any wrench closed a sale on a paid-for lead?
2) Has any wrench closed a sale on the free leads that I gave you?
3) Has any wrench closed a sale on the free leads that other wrenches gave you?
Joel Davidson
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kirpal Khalsa 
  To: RE-wrenches 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 6:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] pay for sales leads


  We used find-solar.com when they originally were aligned with ASES......then 
they had some internal mish mash and ASES decided to turn it into a money 
making venture....they like all the other offers we have been getting, wanted 
to charge for "qualified" leads......we found them to offer the most expensive 
"qualified" lead match referral program with each lead costing in the 
neighborhood of $119.00.......The one benefit of using their service is the 
funds go to help ASES,- a worthwhile and deserving organization in my 
opinion........All the othere private lead referral services have been offering 
their services for in the neighborhood of $14 to $45......We tried one of them 
and found that our idea of "qualified" did not match their idea of 
"qualified".....after trying to convince them that our idea of "qualified" was 
the most important and them not being flexible we decided to stop using their 
service.......we got a few leads but because their vetting process didn't weed  
out folks who only thought of solar as a cool product of the future that didn't 
warrant any expense we never got a job out of it.......
  When find-solar.com switched to cooler planet.....we transfrered our business 
to find solar.org........they were still free and we recieved at least a few 
good quality leads.........they now offer their service for a price but offer a 
variety of other benefits such as placing ad words with google and other search 
engines......among other things.....
  We have decided to back off on using any of these referral services as they 
seem to be coming out of the woodwork and we get most of our leads from prior 
customers and other state programs which list licensed installers.......These 
are of course free services........
  I would love to hear of some success stories from some of these referral 
servicees.......unitl i do, i will be refrainig from using them........
  Cheers.....
  -- 
  Sunny Regards,
  Kirpal Khalsa
  NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer
  Renewable Energy Systems
  www.oregonsolarworks.com
  541-218-0201 m
  541-592-3958 o


  On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Mendocino Solar Service <mso...@mcn.org> 
wrote:

    So how about the free lead-generating outfits? Findsolar.com was started by 
ASES I believe, and is now "Cooler Planet". Anyone get results there or 
elsewhere?


    Bruce Erickson
    Mendocino Solar Service
    PO Box 1252
    Mendocino, CA 95460
    707-937-1701






    On Apr 22, 2009, at 6:20 AM, Jeff Yago wrote:


      Unless you have been in this business about one week, you most likely are 
receiving tons of emails from web sites offering all kinds of great solar sales 
leads for a fee.  The fee is usually in the $15 to $20 range, and they promise 
these are "pre-qualified" leads in that a filtering process has been used to 
weed out those not really serious.


      Considering we get lots of sales leads from other web sites that do not 
charge anything, and have lots of work already, have any of you actually used 
one of these pay for leads web sites and found it to be as good as the hype?


      Jeff Yago
      DTI Solar


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