Hi Nick,

I think the PV will become like HVAC. Residential and small commercial inquiries will be channeled to local installers to keep travel time and costs down. People in say, Sacramento, who want a San Francisco contractor to do their PV system will have to pay a premium. Big solar manufacturers (and almost all are getting big fast with consolidation soon to follow making them even bigger multinational corporations) practice "think global, act local" as they establish their global-to-local distribution channels.

You are right about using alternative fuels to reduce costs and pollution if you must travel a lot. For example, in 2003 a Los Angeles based trucker who hauled meat for the US military from LA to the Chicago area was spending $3400 a roundtrip on diesel. He put a hydrogen generator (for example http://www.thetrucker.com/News/Stories/2006/4/17/Hy-Drivehydrogengeneratorreportsfastermorecompleteengineburn.aspx ) on his rig and said that his diesel consumption was reduced 15%. I guess pollution was reduced about the same amount.

Joel Davidson

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On prop 10,

yes you may feel whatever way you would like about Pickens. Seeing how
much windy land he owns in texas and that he owns clean energy natural gas
stations makes it a bit insipid that he is trying to use the government to
increase his infrastructure. But as a tradesman, if you dont think natural
gas is a important way to run your fleet of heavy vehicles now and in the
future, then i dont understand that. You can run CNG right now, in fact I
do and have for years. It is effective and lower emissions (isnt that part
of what your business is? environmentalism?) I have seen one work van that
runs on batteries in europe that has a low range and a long charge time.
The reality of our business and all the other tradesman is driving up to
200 miles a day and driving around often. You can do what you are doing
now, (buying gas until the battery van comes out never joel?), run a
neighborhood business, or use natural gas. And if you do already, then you
welcome an increase in the infrastructure and can only hope they will use
garbage and cow poop to reach increasing demand instead of imports. And of
course, when the sales fleet and customers are all going around in EVs,
you are right Joel, this state will have officially pulled its head out of
its natural pocket.




Hello Jay,

CalSEIA (and I) am opposed to Prop 7 because, among other things, it would
exclude renewable projects that are 30MW or less from counting toward the
State's Renewable Portfolio Standard. If Prop 7 becomes law, it will
adversely impact the developing markets for distributed solar technologies that are located close to load centers and reduce market opportunities for
many solar companies throughout California. Ensuring that <30MW systems
can
be counted toward RPS goals is very important to expanding the use of
solar
in California. The Prop 7 people seem well-intentioned and probably got
their >30 MW language from the distinction between small and large hydro
(large hydro is bad ecology). I am not a "small is beautiful" hardliner
because some big problems require big solutions. I think that the world
needs both small and large scale PV. We need Jay's PV and PG&E's 800 MW PV
too.

Prop 10 is another story. The Los Angeles Times editorialized against Prop
10 on September 19, saying, "Spending bond money on something as
intangible
as privately owned vehicles is a terrible idea unless there is a clear
public benefit." The Santa Monica Mirror said, "Self-serving Prop. 10
sounds
good, should lose." See
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/California_Proposition_10_(2008) T.
Boone Pickens will definitely benefit from his Prop 10. I think he is
smart
enough to figure out a market-driven way to sell and fuel more natural gas
vehicles. I also think that one of Prop 10's supporters, the California
Air
Resources Board, failed in their duty to the public when the caved to the
automobile and fossil fuel industries and killed the electric vehicle
mandate. Take fossil fuels out of Prop 10 and I might be in favor of it,
but
I am against burdening the next generation with another $10 billion debt
for
a transitional technology like slightly cleaner vehicles. Let's make the
great leap forward and end our addiction to fossil fuels asap.

Joel Davidson

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Hi All in California.

What seems to be the best way to go on the two intiatives #7 and #10.

Thanks,
jay

peltz power
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