Believe me, I've called and spoken with them and had multiple back and 
forth's with RBW staff about various products and issues over the years. 
It's not a big issue as it's not like I'm buying a frame today or anything. 
I'm just sorta curious. I had emailed Jared who is noted to be the point 
person on Hillborne's per the website. I'm sure if I were to email Keven 
I'd get a swift response. I may do that at some point. For the past couple 
of years I've been close to pulling the trigger on a SH but then I've 
either backed down or something has come up. My greatest Riv regret? Not 
pulling the trigger on a Hunqapillar or SH a few years ago when I had the 
green light from my spouse, cash on hand and said bikes were in stock...
 
Other Riv regrets include selling my Quickbeam and my medium Sackville 
SaddleSack. 
 
--mike

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