I guess that one man's touring bike is another's off-road bike -- if it's not his road bike. From my short distance, rear-load-only experience with my Ram, I'd have to say that "touring bike" is a category that covers a lot of ground. In my experience, the Ram could very nicely carry 40 lb of gear, if 10-15 lb were carried in front. (Well, actually, I don't have any experience of carrying 15 lb on the front of a Ram, but the Ram *does* carry 30 lb in the rear with complete aplomb, and I *suspect* that the Ram would handle 15 lb on Tubus Duos perfectly well. For what *that's* worth.)
Perhaps the take away message here is ...(loud chords) ... *versatility!* Who'd 'a thunk? On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Bill Lindsay <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: > They go on to define where Atlantis and Hunqa fit in. Definitely shades > of grey among touringish allrounderish countryish bikes. > > "Off-road “expedition” tourers and single trackers should look to our > other models like the Atlantis and Hunqapillar. For the rest of you.. Sam." > > > On Monday, January 27, 2014 1:26:59 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> More nice photos, this time of Sams, on the Blug. I am suprised to see >> the Sam described as a touring bike, particularly this sentence: >> >> We shouldn’t be pigeonholing Sam like this, but for the prospective >> bike-shopper choosing options *in an established category*, we could say >> it’s a “road touring bike.” And it does that *one* thing better than any >> other bike we know of (we’ve tried ‘em all) >> >> >> I thought the Atlantis was the model for touring. (Yes, I know that Riv >> is trying to squeeze this beautiful round peg into a quotidian square hole.) >> >> At any rate, there are nice photos of the Sam (including two with *Drop >> Bars!* and *single top tubes!*) that make me a bit nostalgic for the 56 >> I used to own. I didn't like the way it handled with a heavy rear load, but >> I daresay that, with load better distributed fore/aft, it would have done >> well. >> >> (For the record, if you are going to build a Sam up as an upright city >> bike, I *do* approve of a kickstand plate, though I would not want one >> on my bike -- mine didn't have one.) >> >> But as a "country bike" it was close to ideal; just not ideal for me, >> since 45 mm tires off road, around here, are just too skinny for my taste. >> >> But it is *pretty* and, had I all the money in the world and a lot more >> time to ride every bike I own, I'd have kept it. Certainly I would have >> chosen it over the old 1958 Herse (nice as that was) that replaced it for a >> year or so until I split the difference between Fargo and Ram. >> >> Segwaying and swaying (in the metaphorical breeze): I took the '03 fixed >> (70") out on the same climbing route today that I rode the 14-speed Ram >> over yesterday. And although yesterday's ride used only these gears (in >> order of use) -- 65, 70, 60, 50, 74 -- the 25" gap and a freewheel for >> steep downhills makes one almost apologetic, it all becomes so easy. OTOH, >> there is nothing in cycling life as fun/challenging/satisfying as pacing >> yourself to stand on a 1 mile hill. (My climbs are steepish but modest in >> length.) The '99 gofast, 75", is even more fun on the same route, but it >> doesn't carry a load of mail or groceries. >> -- >> Albuquerque, NM, USA >> >> Resumes that get interviews: >> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Albuquerque, NM, USA Resumes that get interviews: http://www.resumespecialties.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
