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> The German Mirror... Man, I really want to like that thing. I can't get it 
> positioned so that I can see behind me without leaning my body out of the 
> way. The bolt that fixes the mirror position rattled out and was lost after 
> a week of riding. The damn thing knocks into everything. I do like seeing 
> behind me, though, even if I have to lean out of the way. Where DO you 
> mount the blasted thing, anyway?
>
> That mirror, though. I shake my fist at it daily...
>
/
   It's a love/hate thing for sure. On a Sam with Albas I tried several 
different positions and now  have settled on using the brake lever "snout" 
just behind the cable adjuster, that moves it out enough to (mostly) not be 
looking at my elbow. But what I don't like is the convex which makes 
everything too small and hard to judge distance. For years I have used a  
Mirrycle 
MTB mirror which has a beautiful round flat glass mirror, clear - large 
field of view- and rugged. But it is a bar end mount and the Sam has bar 
end shifters. 
So far the German mirror is the best I've found but like you I stay 
frustrated.

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