Tony

The Saluki Geometry Chart is here:

Saluki Geometry <http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/geometry.html#saluki>

The Saluki was offered all the way up to 62cm, with 650B wheels.  That's 
the bike you want if you want 650B and don't want to convert a 700c 
Rivendell and insist on remaining tall.  :)

The geo of the Salukis and the 650B Hilsens are identical.  Why did they 
morphe the Saluki into 650B Hilsens?  I think just to simplify the buying 
process, because the bikes really are intended to be used the same way. 
 Why did the morphe cause Rivendell to ditch the 60 and the 62 frame size? 
 I don't know for sure, but I believe it has to do with Grant's general 
philosophy that wheelsize and body size should be related.  The biggest 
humans get the biggest frames and the biggest wheels.  The shorter folks 
get smaller frames and smaller wheels and the middle sizes are in a 
transition area.  

If I were you, and I was determined to own a 650B Rivendell, I would call 
them and tell them that I want to buy a 62cm 650B Hilsen.  They have the 
design done.  They have a vendor that makes the 650B bikes.  They have all 
the lugs, etc.  I can't think of a technical reason why they couldn't build 
it.  Maybe there is fixturing work that they haven't done at Waterford for 
that size.  Maybe they would simply say "no" on philosophical grounds and 
assure you that you'll do better on a 63cm 700c Hilsen.  

And then, to your question about mapping PBH to bike size on the Hilsen 
page, they absolutely do have that as a cheat-sheet at the showroom.  I've 
looked at it numerous times.  It was right there on the wall.  They 
absolutely don't mind idle curiosity, so don't be shy.  Or just email one 
of the guys.  They are always nice about it.  Even if you emailed them and 
said "I'm a 90PBH, and I really want to buy a 650B bike.  Would a 62cm 
Saluki on the second hand market fit me OK?", I promise they will respond 
honestly.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA


On Sunday, December 29, 2013 9:15:46 PM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> I've got to call uncle, can anyone link me up to a PBH chart for the 650B 
> Homer's?
>
> Also any background on how Riv decided to close out the Saluki's and add 
> the 650B Homer's? 
>

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