Wait a gosh darn second...aren't they one in the same. Best,
~Hugh On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote: > Do as I say, not as I do... > > On 12/3/13, Hugh Smitham <hughsmit...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Right Mr. Bike of the Month club Rat-a-tat! > > > > Best, > > > > ~Hugh > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:52 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Well, I suppose... > >> > >> On 12/3/13, Hugh Smitham <hughsmit...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > But there's nothing wrong with having another bike right. > >> > > >> > Best, > >> > > >> > ~Hugh > >> > > >> > > >> > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:20 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> +1 on having a second wheelset. Much less expensive than having a > >> >> second > >> >> bike! > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On 12/3/13, Hugh Smitham <hughsmit...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > Bill, > >> >> > > >> >> > I can't for certain say what caused the slash in my tire, if I were > >> >> > to > >> >> > surmise I'd say it was a sharp rock which exposed the tube that > >> >> > later > >> >> blew > >> >> > out when I rolled over something that wouldn't necessarily slash > the > >> >> > tire > >> >> > but easily punctured the tube or the original slash also slashed > the > >> >> > tube > >> >> > but not all the way through so as I rode it finally gave up the > >> >> > ghost. > >> >> The > >> >> > latter I feel is the most likely. > >> >> > > >> >> > At this time I am aware that I'm not aware of a tire that is supple > >> >> > fast > >> >> > and puncture or slash resistant for all circumstances... there is > >> >> > always > >> >> a > >> >> > compromise. I knew that running the Hetres I was gambling when I > >> >> > rode > >> >> > on > >> >> > MTB trails my mistake. Use the correct tool for the job! > >> >> > > >> >> > So on my 650b Hilsen if I want to go off, off road I run the "Force > >> >> > Field > >> >> > Rumpkins" which I have taken on arguably tough roads & single track > >> >> > meant > >> >> > for MTB knobby tires and they have held up excellent. That Bill is > >> some > >> >> > peace of mind I just need to have another wheel set to swap rough > >> stuff > >> >> > tires with supple fast roady tires... ah here we go adding to the > >> >> > already > >> >> > long list. > >> >> > > >> >> > I'm looking for a everyday tire that will roll with less resistance > >> but > >> >> > with better slash and puncture resistance than the Hetres and can > >> >> > handle > >> >> > the occasional light off-road foray. I'm looking at the Soma Xpress > >> and > >> >> the > >> >> > Nifty Swifty but leaning toward the Soma's as he Grant seems to > like > >> >> them. > >> >> > > >> >> > I heard my buddy Evan had a worn set of original Rumpkins and they > >> tore > >> >> on > >> >> > the side wall. All things are transient. > >> >> > > >> >> > Hugh "the search continues "Smitham > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Best, > >> >> > > >> >> > ~Hugh > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Bill Lindsay <tapebu...@gmail.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> It's always a bummer when you cut an expensive tire, especially > >> >> >> when > >> >> it's > >> >> >> fairly new. Maybe I'm reckless, but I think of tire cuts as > >> EXTREMELY > >> >> >> rare > >> >> >> events. Moreover, the things that I've run over to badly cut a > >> >> >> tire > >> >> >> in > >> >> >> my > >> >> >> ~35 years of cycling usually would have cut ANY tire (once, a > thick > >> >> >> nail > >> >> >> poked a hole in the RIM). > >> >> >> > >> >> >> My thing is, if it's going to happen about once every 5 years or > >> >> >> so, > >> >> >> and > >> >> >> if it's going to ruin any tire, then I might as well spend those 5 > >> >> >> years > >> >> >> riding on nice-riding tires. If you, Hugh, can somehow be sure > >> >> >> that > >> >> >> the > >> >> >> thing that cut your Hetre is going to happen really often and if > >> >> >> you > >> >> >> can > >> >> >> know that there is a tire that won't be cut by that same thing, > >> >> >> then > >> >> >> you > >> >> >> can sensibly argue that there's a cost-benefit trade off that > makes > >> >> >> more > >> >> >> sense. I just don't see how you could know either of those > things. > >> >> >> If > >> >> >> that's the case, you are investing in peace of mind, which is > fine, > >> of > >> >> >> course. Me, I'd continue to invest in ride quality. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Bill > >> >> >> > "who-runs-force-field-fatty-rumpkins-on-his-heaviest-stiffest-bike" > >> >> >> Lindsay > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 8:01:12 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> I had a little experience around dusk. Read about it > >> >> >>> here<http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/> > >> >> >>> . > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> ~Hugh > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in > >> the > >> >> >> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/f2LAG6k5qAo/unsubscribe > >> >> >> . > >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email > to > >> >> >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> >> >> To post to this group, send email to > >> >> >> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > >> >> >> Visit this group at > >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > >> >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> >> > Groups > >> >> > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > >> >> > send > >> >> > an > >> >> > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> >> > To post to this group, send email to > >> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > >> >> > Visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > >> >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Cheers, > >> >> David > >> >> > >> >> "it isn't a contest. 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