Up until the advent of processed foods, most "condiments" were fermented 
veggies w/ spices -- and that's where they got their zest from. Vinegar is 
the lazy, production line friendly way to get something sort of similar, 
but you lose a lot of the health benefits of fermented foods (gut flora 
high, for example). Of course fermenting ain't so easy. We've tried a few 
times and gotten naught but stink. Sardonic grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, November 25, 2013 8:03:48 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
> Y'know, if you're looking for a tomato-based sauce with onions, 
> garlic, and a souring agent like vinegar, but no sugar, a sauce tastes 
> good with fried foods, you might want to pass the ketchup aisle and 
> head straight for the salsas. That's what a salsa is: tomato, usually 
> onions, garlic and some spices, and a souring agent (though it's more 
> typically lime juice than vinegar). 
>
> On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Patrick Moore 
> <bert...@gmail.com<javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
> > Not too off topic, I hope, given all the "paelo" stuff. 
> > 
> > Can anyone recommend a ketchup that is not hugely over-sweetened like 
> > Heinz's typical, with all its corn syrup? I don't care about the carbs, 
> I 
> > just very much dislike the way the sugar masks the flavor. 
> > 
> > I've found Westbrae here: 
> > 
> > http://www6.netrition.com/westbrae_veggie_ketchup.html<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww6.netrition.com%2Fwestbrae_veggie_ketchup.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEISqc3bobQ7APRdyUaaJRJb3RNgg>
> >  
> > 
> > at a reasonable price (not paying $7.50 for Dean and DeLuca), but how 
> does 
> > it *taste*? 
> > 
> > Or can someone take me to a reliable (and personally tested, if 
> recommended) 
> > recipe? 
> > 
> > Thanks. 
> > 
> > (And what wine goes best with ketchup?) 
> > 
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