Well, if the weather in Tucson continues tomorrow as it is currently, the 
riders in the El Tour de Tucson may wish they had an English Ventile 
jacket!  Fortunately, I'm not riding in the event, and haven't in a number 
of years although I did in the past (finishing 36th amongst the riders in 
the older 50 mile event on my Rivendell Road Standard when I was 55 years 
old, not too bad!).
Also, for a combination of a Harris Tweed garment, and getting what you 
paid for there's this...

http://www.endclothing.com/nigel-cabourn-seam-sealed-cameraman-jacket.html?gclid=CI6fqazy-LoCFasRMwodlkQAeQ

Jim

On Friday, November 22, 2013 7:29:24 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:
>
> > If we're still talking about that Riv Italian-Ventile rain jacket, trust 
> > me: a Goodwill tweed blazer will not perform the same, not even close.   
> > I have a Ventile rain jacket, UK-made, now 9 years old.  Contrary to 
> > Riv's wishy washy disclaimers, it's waterproof. Really waterproof.  It 
> > also doesn't look even the least bit like a waterproof jacket.  You can 
> > wear it anywhere; it's my most useful light jacket. 
>
> Precisely.  It's fine if one does not want to buy the jacket, but monsense 
> to compare it to other garments that have none of the capability. 
>

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