One thing that caught me off guard this past week, and may have flown under 
the average Riv radar, is the new DynaSys shimano shadow detailers.  I had 
one show up that was ordered as a regular shadow.  Apparently there was a 
transition where all being sold as 10 spd are now DynaSys.  I am still 
sorting out the details, but bottom line is that it would neither index nor 
friction shift across a new shimano 9spd cassette.  I have had no problem 
with earlier generation shadow derailer as well as some labeled DydaSys.  I 
am still not completely sure what has changed, but it was as bad as trying 
to get a Sram 9spd MTB derailer to work with a retro friction DT shifter.  

I pulled it off and put on a regular new 105 GS cage, and it indexed 
perfectly across all 9 cogs including the 36 tooth one.  

Apparently there are DynaSys cassettes out there as well with non-uniform 
spacing between cogs as well, buyer beware

Rob.  

On Monday, October 28, 2013 7:33:09 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> fair enough, and certainly the truth - goes with the package-and-replace 
> mentality of the industry.  We people who put c. 2006 drivetrains on 1986 
> steel frames are the exception and not the rule.  
>
> On Monday, October 28, 2013 7:11:12 AM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
>>
>>
>> It's not even that that MF underrate(or rate at all, how we define 
>> "rating") their derailers ..... it's that when they give the spec, they have
>> * specific* cassettes in mind for each. The "rated" specs then, are not 
>> meant as hard ruled limitations , but are based on the MF* intended 
>> cassettes in mind*.  It's a marketing and well, logistical "suggestion" 
>> ... lol .  That's what I call it.   It minimizes confusion for some .... 
>> adds to it for others, no doubt. Considering ALL the parts made ... ALL the 
>> vendors .... ALL the bike shops and manufacturers .... it's an attempt to 
>> make some sort of standard that everyone can understand, or at least use a 
>> base from which to work from for others. 
>>
>

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