Clayton is 1,000%+ right on. I tried various side stands and various center
stands including Pletscher and VO and one other expensive one, and
nonofthem is worth a spit into the wind compared to the cheap Greenfield
dropout-mount stand.

1. It will support a heavy load in one pannier, be the loaded pannier on
the stand side or the other side; at least 20:0 is fine, and probably more.
NO other kind of stand, IME, will do this. Even the widest center stand
I've used (forget if that is the VO or the nameless one; the Pletscher was
exceptionally useless in this regard) won't hold a bike up if you hang 20+
lb from one side of the rack.

2. As good: you can leave the stand down while you wheel your fixed gear
grocery bike through the aisles. You come to a place where you must browse:
set it down and leave it; no more leaning the bike against a shelfull of
Jello Instant Pudding boxes or against the meat bin while other shoppers
are trying to peer over it to take a look.

I mounted mine on what I think (judging by frame weight and tubing "feel")
to have been a light gauge, standard width, tout 531 racing frame ('73
Motobecane Grande Record) without benefit of tape, padding, or loctite, and
had absolutely no problems.

Just damned ugly, alas, which is the only reason one doesn't go onto the
commuter Riv and the Ram. (If Nitto makes one that sells for $350, I'll
have to reconsider.)

Just struck me that a brazed-on rear stand would be a pyjama for a cat.
Expensive, y'know.


On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Clayton <treefir...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I have come to appreciate that a rear axle area/rear triangle kickstand
> works much better than a mid mount with a rear rack/pannier/trunk bag set
> up. It is much more stable. Much better....Mucho...bigness
> better...embiggen lots...so very swell. I would not consider using a mid
> mount kickstand, unless it was on a bike without a rear rack....To each
> their own....The tubing of the seatstays and chainstays is thicker by the
> rear axle, as they are swaged down to a taper. I wrapped the kickstand
> mount areas on both with self vulcanizing rubber electrical tape and it
> does not budge or loosen. Blue locktited of course. No crushing the
> chainstays at the bottom of the seat tube...
>
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