Hi Steve, The Ram does have a low BB to begin with, so it's not a conversion to consider lightly; if someone were only interested in running something in the 35 or 38 width, then I wouldn't suggest it. Or, if someone had really long crank-arms, too.
The Hetre, though, gets you back up really close to a 700x27 size. I think that's a big part of why Toshi and I like it, is that specific tire is large enough to not introduce issues w/ the BB height. Part of the consideration that you need to factor in, is the crank: my crank is a 170, and I'm not peddling through corners, so I've not had any problems. Another factor is the rider weight, too (maybe not for Toshi, but for me, at least): I'm not a little guy; so, when I was running Ruffy-Tuffy's, I had to really pump them on up there. I liked the 32 Paselas better than the Ruffy Tuffy's, but they were too tight with fenders. If I didn't want to run fenders, the 700c 32 Paselas would have been fine to have stuck with. Switching to a 'large' 650b tire allowed me, a big guy, to run a comfy tire at lower pressures under fenders. I don't want to make it sound like it was magically different or anything: it's still a great bike, and it's a similar ride; it's just softer, because of the lower pressure. FWIW... On Friday, October 25, 2013 10:00:28 AM UTC-4, stevef wrote: > > With all due respect to those who have made this conversion and like it, I > personally feel it lowers the bottom bracket too much. It's not > unbearable, but why live with it when there are optimized purpose-built > machines available? The rambly is such a fine bike with 700c wheels I > couldn't bear to fiddle with it. YMMV. > > Steve > > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:30 PM, BykMor <byk...@gmail.com <javascript:>>wrote: > >> Oh you tricky tricky people. More thinking to do. >> >> Beautiful bike. Thank you for letting me know. I might have to message >> you off list to get some insight. >> >> BykMor >> >> On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:04:06 PM UTC-6, Leslie wrote: >>> >>> To throw a wrench into your plans.... >>> >>> I converted my 60 Ram to 650b: http://www.flickr.com/photos/** >>> leslie_bright/8351739256/in/**set-72157623199721925<http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/8351739256/in/set-72157623199721925> >>> >>> >>> Toshi did, too.... >>> >>> >>> ;) >>> >>> >>> -L >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:20:23 PM UTC-4, BykMor wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> This was posted a couple weeks ago in another thread regarding the >>>> attributes of the Rambouillet vs the Sam Hillborne, but I though I'd >>>> repost >>>> with it's own "FS" subject line. >>>> >>>> Some photos live here: https://plus.google.com/**u/0/photos/** >>>> 111496061371485598754/albums/**5935804564746652129<https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/111496061371485598754/albums/5935804564746652129> >>>> >>>> The bike currently lives here: Saturday Cycles in Salt Lake City, UT >>>> >>>> I love the bicycle, but have this insatiable (while I'm still in >>>> possession of the Ram) urge to try a 650b randonneur. I imagine I'll >>>> regret >>>> selling it down the road, but we all need a little regret to make good >>>> stories. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> BykMor >>>> >>>> Saturday Cycles has a very nice build Rambouillet in 60cm. Original >>>> full build cost was about 4k....selling complete for $2400 >>>> Frameset Riv RamouilletBrake LeversSRAM ShiftersSilver DTCrankSugino >>>> compact2 Bottom BracketSugino outboardBrakesPauls Center Front >>>> DerailleurIRD Rear Derailleur UltegraCassetteShimano HG80 ChainKMC 9x >>>> StemNitto HandlebarsNitto Noodle- 48cmTapeDeda- green >>>> HeadsetUltegraWheels: >>>> (Peter White built) .--.Front HubSONdelux .--.Rear HubPhil Wood >>>> cassette.--.Spokes .--.Rims, 36HVelocity- SynergySaddleBrooks B17 CS >>>> Green SeatpostNitto CrystalTiresSchwalbe Durano Pedals TubesFront >>>> RackNitto- >>>> Mark's CageArundel stainlessLamp Edelux DecalleurBagSackville sm >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to >> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
