Andy, that's why I only wear my down vest under my rain jacket. No swish 
swish.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 1:34:25 PM UTC-6, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
>
> I'm a layers man myself... wool and fleece underneath and a shell if 
> conditions call for it. I like the versatility of layers. A Wolly Warm vest 
> is a great insulation investment. 
>
> I've always been envious of other's down jackets for the weight/warmth 
> ratio. I picked up a patagonia quarter-zip down pullover sweater a few 
> years ago. It was certainly warm, light and compressible. I used it on a 
> few backpacking trips, but the swish-swish every time I moved drove me 
> nuts. I'm never bothered by the swish-swish of others... just my own. I got 
> rid of the sweater. 
>
> I love my down sleeping bag... same swish-swish sound. Perhaps I move less 
> in my sleep. 
>
> Under the influence of AHH owner/list member Chris Chen, I recently bought 
> a new shell from J&G Cyclewear. So far so good. 
>
> What Zack said about blocking the wind... I've found that to be the key to 
> staying warm. Also, a good tight knit wool beanie that covers your ears, 
> wind resistant gloves and wool socks/leather shoes.  
>
> Good luck, Hugh. 
>
> --Smitty
>
>
>  
>
> On Monday, October 21, 2013 8:21:37 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Need the collective wisdom of the Bunch here.
>>
>> Need to update my S240 wardrobe as I plan on doing more high altitude 
>> camping...which of these do I go with?
>>
>> This one is PrimaLoft synthetic insulation but apparently doesn't lose 
>> insulation capability even when wet and dries quickly.
>>
>>
>> http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/76777?page=ascent-packaway-jacket&nav=p1d-hp#
>>  
>>
>> Next is this Down coat which has a water repellant treatment. 
>>
>> http://www.rei.com/product/853044/marmot-ajax-down-jacket-mens
>>
>> For me the variables are packs small, very good insulating (I get cold 
>> real easy) capability, and budget you'll notice that both of these are not 
>> too expensive, the PrimaLoft the least of the two. Thanks for looking and 
>> helping a chilly Brother.
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>>

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