Michael: 

Nothing is free; energy to run a light comes at a cost and just as the 
stiffest frame may not be the best one, the brightest light may not be best 
one either. 

I have a SON hub and LUXOS B light on my commuter. 800 Lumens? No, but 
putting what you have where it is needed and producing a more positive 
result with the fewest negatives is worth lots of Lumens in trade. Drag? 
Yes, you can feel it by turning the lifted wheel.

But the amazing thing the specs don't indicate (Peter White gets close), is 
how the darn thing feels faster at night with this hub generator and light. 
It is the same effect as that first new bike you got when you were 12; it 
is the coolest thing ever and when you see some of the undisciplined light 
patterns of the retina burning lights out there you will appreciate how 
"the most available" can be too much. Look at a photo of a flash-lit 
subject that was light-washed  by the overwhelming illumination of the 
flash? A fellow rider and commuter in my neighborhood, who rode Crush the 
Commonwealth (Philadelphia to PIttsburgh, non-stop, non-competitive ride) 
in under 37 hours, has more light on her bike and helmet than a German 
sports car. Maybe good off-road in the pitch blackness but it washes out 
the details I am happiest to see coming. She had to carry so many extra 
proprietary batteries in that exercise that it probably was more 
debilitating than a little hub drag.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Saturday, October 12, 2013 12:56:00 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
>
> What types are there?
> Do they cause drag? Or have they overcome that with newer technology?
>  
> I want something that has zero drag if such a thing exists, and more than 
> 800 lumens. Am I dreaming?
>

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