Wow, this is the last I comment on this thread but I don't think anyone called anyone stupid or told them they don't feel how they feel. Seems like you just hyper personalized the issue. If people can't comment on their personal experiences because they might offending someone then it's a pretty sad state of affairs. On Oct 5, 2013 5:28 PM, "Anne Paulson" <anne.paul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I kinda wonder about acclimation. I live in sunny California now, but > I grew up in New Jersey, where it sometimes snows in the winter, and I > went to college in Rhode Island, where it tends to be 33 degrees and > raining in the winter. And I never acclimated. I was just always cold > in the winter. > > Y'know, when people say they find helmets hot, or they find rainpants > hot when it rains, I don't say "You're wrong! I don't find helmets > hot, so you must not find them hot either. I don't find rainpants hot > in a cold rain, so you must not find them hot either. You're just so > stupid that you don't know what you feel." 'Cause I realize that > different people are different. > > > On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Deacon Patrick <lamontg...@mac.com> wrote: > > Good point, Anne, though the principle is still at work for you; however, > > people have different circulation systems and sitting still in a tent is > > different than a body in motion generating a lot more heat and pumping a > lot > > more volume of blood from the core to the extremities. Also, we > acclimatize > > to where we live, so when warm blooded folks come to the mountains they > are > > freezing. For me, there is a switch in my brain that gets turned off (or > > on?) when I'm brain fatigued and I can't generate heat at all. Even if > it's > > 80˚F I'm in a sweater and shivering and extremities are freezing. We > knew I > > wasn't doing well on fire evacuation in The Utah desert at 100+˚F and I > was > > comfortable and not sweating at all. Sardonic grin. > > > > With abandon, > > Patrick > > > > > > On Saturday, October 5, 2013 1:49:42 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote: > >> > >> Can I just request that people not generalize from their own > >> experience to everyone else's? If *your* core is warm, your > >> extremities are warm, but that is not true for me, nor is it true for > >> many other people. If I sit in my tent, in my sleeping bag, using my > >> iPhone, on a cold night my hands will get cold if I don't wear gloves. > >> That is why I have those works-with-touchscreen gloves; without them, > >> my hands get ice cold if I try to read. Even if the temps are in the > >> 40s. > >> > >> I find the "It works for me so it should work for you too" attitude a > >> little annoying as well as silly. > >> > >> -- Anne > >> > >> On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Peter Morgano <uscpet...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > I grew up in the mountains in upstate NY and have to agree, if your > core > >> > is > >> > warm your extremities will be warm. I focused on layers on my core and > >> > in > >> > below freezing weather my hands feet and knees are still warm. If you > >> > have > >> > good core layering you shouldn't need super pants. > >> > > >> > On Oct 5, 2013 1:07 PM, "David T." <davidt...@yahoo.ca> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> I am a Canadian from Northern Ontario. > >> >> > >> >> Cold on your knees may not be a cause of your knee pain. Putting > wraps > >> >> and > >> >> bandages on might just make it feel worse. > >> >> > >> >> You don't need much on your legs. Above about 7 degrees celsius ( 45 > >> >> degrees fahrenheit ) shorts are appropriate. I love seeing the ride > >> >> reports > >> >> from the beautiful States but I notice that people sometimes > overdress > >> >> there. > >> >> > >> >> For outdoor activities, a pair of light wool dress pants can't be > beat. > >> >> Second hand, or even an old pair from a "marrying and burying suit." > >> >> You > >> >> don't need to buy any cycling- or sports-specific legwear. > >> >> > >> >> For really cold weather, the most you would need is a pair of long > >> >> johns > >> >> with some kind of synthetic layer over. If you get cold, pedal > harder. > >> >> If > >> >> you start to sweat too much, slow down or rest until you cool to the > >> >> right > >> >> level. > >> >> > >> >> Keep cycling and maybe do some resistance/weight training to build up > >> >> your > >> >> quads and hamstrings; that will help with most knee problems. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> >> Groups > >> >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send > >> >> an > >> >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. > >> >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. > >> >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> > Groups > >> > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > >> > an > >> > email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. > >> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. > >> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> -- Anne Paulson > >> > >> It isn't a contest. 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