I am very appreciative of the comments offered here.  I live in Del Mar 
hill country.  Once I leave my block, there are 14% grades in either 
direction for a 200 foot elevation gain in .5 miles.  Average grade is 7%. 
 I rode Sam up and down several times with the unoptimized load (22 lbs) 
and while I am sluggish compared to an unfettered bike, but I don't think 
we will need a cardiologist on call.  Sam is stable with the load.  That is 
very cool.  I am using a large Sackville saddle bag and a Sackville BarSack 
on the front. At tis point, I have to lash the sleeping pad and compression 
sack encased sleeping bag outside of the bike bags.  I think I could do 
better.  Looking forward to this to test things out and see what works.

I had to laugh out loud at the porcelain mug, camp watermelon, and waffle 
kit comment from Christopher.  Although, the waffle images on that Panther 
Creek Gran Carbo were a class act.  Consider this one a shakedown.  We'll 
see what works and what doesn't without a lot of drama.  After a few 
trials, I might be inclined to bring a pizzlle maker. but we'll wait and 
see how that works out.  Don't know if Rivers like pizzlles (I do, buttered 
with Nutela).

My Trangia came with a strainer/lid that can act as a cutting board.  And I 
have knives.  Not bringing guns..  Anne's idea about a headlamp is good. 
 Don't have time to go to REI to get one, but it will be on my list.  USB 
bike light held in mouth while using both arms will have to do for now.

Ride free, rivers,

Tom

On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:09:21 PM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote:
>
> I am not interested in fern elves who sleep under leaves or those who can 
> build a house at the campsite from available materials
>
> What is a nominal weight?
>
> With everything I could want, I am coming in at +22 pounds.  I am trying 
> to pare that away.  If I were to take everything, it would include,,,
>
>   Sleeping bag
>
>  Sleeping bag liner
>
>  Compression Sack
>
>  Pillow
>
>  Pad
>
>  Tent
>
>  Tent Footprint
>
>  French Press
>
>  Titanium cup
>
>  Stove
>
>  Fuel bottle
>
>  Cooking pot
>
>  Utensils
>
>  bucket
>
>  camp suds
>
>  towel
>
>  sacks
>
>  egg holder 
>
>  bottles
>
>
> and a few other things for breakfast, camp clothes.
>
> Having accumulated all of this from backpacking, I am now figuring out 
> where to pare down.
>
> I have been practicing with Sam and the weight. 
>
> Best regards,
>
> Tom
>
>
>  

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