It's my experience that a stable front platform beats basket struts hands down. 
I've no empirical proof of that, just my own experience. :-) 

I generally ride with 7-15 pounds up front without trouble on a regular basis. 
I'd be okay up to 20 lbs in a pinch but at that point would definitely add rear 
panniers and redistribute things. If I'm doing a shopping trip (or camping 
trip) that's definitely what I'd do. I tend to do a lot of smaller shopping 
trips (living in Hawaii I'm never far from a store). I wouldn't try 45lbs on 
that particular setup. Besides with that much weight a shift in position could 
probably break the zip ties I use to secure my basket to the rack.

When I used the platrack under the basket things were a lot more stable than 
with just the mini-front, but even that's an improvement over basket struts. I 
just find the 'sway' using basket struts way too disconcerting. The handling 
with a  firm mount is definitely much better and more stable. I never seem to 
have trouble while underway, just when stopped and forget I've got a load. :-)

I ride in Honolulu in traffic regularly so my experience is definitely in 
'light auto traffic.' Actually coming home it's often heavy auto traffic but at 
that point I'm faster. :-)

The mini-front is only rated to 4.4 lbs according to Riv so I definitely 
overload it, but have never had an problems. 

Keeping the load stable in the basket is also important. Having things moving 
around is generally not good. I use a net to keep things in place, tightening 
it down as necessary.  

If I had 45 lbs to haul I'd try for 15/15 in the rear in panniers and 10 up 
front. 


Robert Harrison
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On Aug 3, 2013, at 9:04 AM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Robert: that is interesting: a stable platform makes a front basket much less 
> likely to affect handling? All my Newsboy and slightly smaller experiments 
> were without racks, just using the basket struts.
> 
> I'm curious since, IMO, a big, front-mounted container is the easiest way to 
> deal with things like groceries. But before I splurge on a Newsboy again, I 
> want to be sure that I'm right. 
> 
> How much weight at most can you carry in your rack-supported basket without 
> feeling endangered in tight auto traffic? (That is the particular condition I 
> am interested in learning about: the sort of traffic that you get at and near 
> busy strip malls.) I carry up to 45 lb of groceries at one go.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Robert Harrison <rfharri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I see you are using a Wald with the strut attachments. I've never much cared 
> for that arrangement as the basket does seem to move side to side a bit. I 
> always attach my baskets directly to a front rack - usually the Nitto 
> mini-front and in the past (and future I'm sure) on the now discontinued 
> platrack attachment. That brings the basket down a bit from where I see yours 
> in the photo and, as the base is steady, keeps the basket from swaying. I've 
> never had any particular handling problems that way, though it does handle 
> differently than an unloaded or very lightly loaded front.
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/8111374065/in/set-72157631824788937
> 
> I have had front baskets set up the way yours is and yes, that's dicey. :-(
> 
> Aloha,
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
> Robert Harrison
> rfharri...@gmail.com
> www.statrix.com
> 
> On Aug 3, 2013, at 7:21 AM, SMP <sume...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I had a similar experience on my Riv:
> > http://www.flickr.com/x/t/0092009/photos/sumehra/5629443174/
> >
> > Fully loaded with groceries... "Dicey" doesn't even begin to describe the 
> > handling.
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