Mike: an aside: after grunting my 35 lb Fargo with hugely heavy (800 gr
rims and tires) up 17 miles of gravel climb last week, I have decided to
equip the much lighter Rhyno Lite wheelset with sub 600 gram knobbies and
save the other set for local sand.

>From your experience, will taking, say, a pound off the circumference of
each wheel (rims and tires and tubes) make a noticeable difference in
climbing effort? I know that my brother, with remarkably light 26" wheels
on hisery light v ti rigid 26er (quite possibly they were lighter than the
road wheels for the same bike, with Performance 35s and less exalted rims)
just left me standing on the climb, and I'd like to know that it wasn't
simply climbing ability.

I am very, very tempted by those 450 gram Schwalbes -- Furious Freds? --
that someone remarked available from a British supplier for about $100
shipped, but I am waiting to hear from someone about a trade for something
possibly suitable, if not as light.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Mike Schiller <mikeybi...@rocketmail.com>wrote:

> There are a lot of long dirt road sections, so improving efficiency is
> more about completing your planned route than overall speed.  While I'm not
> suggesting adopting a racing focus, optimizing your bike and gear to
> increase how much fun you have along the way.
>
> But... we all have different skill levels. I raced mountain bikes for many
> years so that drives my opinions.  Then again I'm seriously thinking about
> getting the new Surly ECR. A backpacking/touring rig using  29 x 3.0" tires.
>
> ~mike
>
>
> On Thursday, August 1, 2013 8:31:03 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
>> Wait... am I on the Riv list? Am I seeing an appeal to what racers
>> use? Am I seeing claims that a certain tire would slow me down?
>>
>> I'll tell you what would slow me down. Crashing and breaking a bone
>> out in the middle of nowhere, that's what.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Mike Schiller <mikey...@rocketmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hey Doug, most of the guys/gals who race it ( GD race) use fairly
>> skinny
>> > knobbies for MTB's The most common tires WTB's Nano raptor and the
>> Conti
>> > Race Kings only measure about 50mm wide. Sure a big fat knobby would
>> help
>> > but it does slow you down a bit, even for unracers.
>> >
>> > ~mike
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thursday, August 1, 2013 5:14:09 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Quick afterthought:  Jim's Hunqapillar is shod with 55 mm Big Bens &
>> looks
>> >> to have some clearance.  Maybe a Hunq w/ginormous knobbies?
>> >>
>> >> dougP
>> >>
>> >> On Thursday, August 1, 2013 5:10:59 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Isn't it called the Great Divide route because it closely follows the
>> >>> continental divide?  As in, waaaaayy up in the mountains?  While I
>> love my
>> >>> Atlantis, and have taken it some places it really wasn't meant to go,
>> it
>> >>> seems this is a ride for which a purpose built MTB is more
>> appropriate.  I
>> >>> concur with Anne's comment about liking under-biking, but not that
>> far
>> >>> under.  Memories of gazing down the Abyss of Death on the Loch Leven
>> ride
>> >>> are still fresh in mind.
>> >>>
>> >>> dougP
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thursday, August 1, 2013 1:29:21 PM UTC-7, Matt Beebe wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I have ridden the northern part of the divide, using 40mm tires
>> fully
>> >>>> loaded on a regular touring bike, and I would definitely not
>> hesitate to do
>> >>>> it on an Atlantis.    Parts of it were gnarly, but they were not
>> that long
>> >>>> and were actually kind of fun.    I found that those washboard roads
>> go from
>> >>>> nightmare to completely doable if you drop your tire pressure to
>> juuust the
>> >>>> right amount.   It was really surprising what a difference it makes.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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