LOL.......not sure I could get away with that........most of my bikes weigh 
from 26-32 pounds but I ride wide rubber and metal fenders with generator 
lighting and touring wheel sets....I own a 21 pound +/- old school race 
bike but its just not comfortable or versatile. I've been switching to more 
durable better quality parts as I can afford them. As an aside, I recently 
replaced my daughters inexpensive Sugino 48x38x28 trekking crank set due to 
excessive chain ring wear (the chain actually slipped off the teeth when 
she stood to pedal). She rides year round everywhere in college and it is 
her only transportation. The crank set had riveted chain rings so no way to 
replace but I found a nice Shimano set with replaceable rings for under $50 
with forged crank arms. Good parts aren't always expensive but should be 
serviceable.

On Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:21:03 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
>
> I am in ok shape so ride naked in the summer, clothes are unnecessary IMO. 
> I just use spf 100 and my lycra speedo. 
> On May 25, 2013 4:58 PM, "Mike Schiller" 
> <mikey...@rocketmail.com<javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>> for those of us who are in good shape and  ride a lot of  miles *
>> unnecessary* extra weight bike is important.  A good 7075 aluminum ring 
>> will last a long time. Probably around 3-4 times longer than the basic 
>> Sugino rings. 
>> I'd rather keep my bikes as light as I can within reason. I already make 
>> weight compromises, like a Brooks saddle and racks. The durability of SS 
>> rings is great for single speeds and tandems but a waste on a geared bike 
>> IMO.
>>
>> ~mike
>>
>> On Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:56:57 PM UTC-7, charlie wrote:
>>>
>>> I get the weight thing but seriously............its not that much of a 
>>> difference in the overall weight of your bicycle especially if you include 
>>> your weight in the equation (as Grant says). If durability is a prime 
>>> concern in your drive train go ahead and get steel rings they will probably 
>>> out last any aluminum rings 10-1. When you ride high mileage, dirty 
>>> conditions or do crummy maintenance, parts are just parts and longer 
>>> wearing parts are better. The guy that rides 15,000 miles a year is 
>>> probably in such good riding condition that a little weight doesn't matter.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:43:39 AM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sugino rings are 6061 aluminum and wear pretty fast. The Surly 
>>>> stainless ones are nice and shiny and wear well but are I heavier. They 
>>>> weigh about twice as much as aluminum.  A good compromise are the 7075 
>>>> aluminum rings that wear well and are lighter.  While I'm not super bike 
>>>> weight conscious, a few ounces here and there add up to a heavier ( and 
>>>> slower) bike.
>>>> I prefer to use TA rings if possible or Race Face who makes some 
>>>> durable rings as well.
>>>>
>>>> ~mike
>>>>
>>>>
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