Without trying to get into specifics, my impression on longer rides is that 
the Riv's are way more comfortable and easier to manage over the long haul. 
 I think the combination of geometry and larger tires makes for much less 
effort over long distances.  I have ridden my Hunq fully loaded for over 
120miles on some days, slept on the ground at night, and woke up without an 
ache or pain.  I could never say that about a typical road bike, or even 
the LHT when I had it.

Marc

On Monday, May 13, 2013 6:12:47 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
>
> OK, just to clarify, y'all:
>>  
>>
> By "modern geometry", I meant the typical carbon bike shapes and angles of 
> construction you see these days in TdeF. Those kindsa bikes and their ilk 
> sold in shoppes around the USA today. 
>  
> The phrase was *not* meant to negative-image-state anything about what a 
> Riv bike geometry is.
>  
> Sorry for the poor phraseology in my question. Hope this clears it up.
>  
> So, any diff you feel between these bikes on centuries or more rides 
> compared to your Rivbikes?
>  
>  
>

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