Good points! I have a Small Sackville SaddleSack on order. I can't wait to try it out and I expect it will be great for the majority of what I do. That said; I just got back from Trader Joe's. I take my bike right into the store (leave the lock at home) and I use my bike as a shopping cart and my Ortlieb panniers as grocery bags. Very convenient! But both panniers were stuffed to the top. I weighed the panniers when I got home and they topped 45 pounds! So shopping for a family of four is really beyond what even the Large Sackville SaddleSack could do. A nice thing about the Small Sackville SaddleSack is that I can just leave it on and it won’t interfere with my panniers when I’m using them. But most of the time I’ll just leave the panniers at home.
Just use the best tool for the job at hand. On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 8:10:00 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > I don't think it's contentious at all. What a boring world where everybody > had the same opinion about everything. Let differences flourish! (In both > senses.) I am puzzled and somewhat amused by some people's thin > skinned-ness. > > Obviously this is a case where we each have our own preference, but > there's nothing at all wrong with that. > > FWIW, I personally prefer saddlebags for all but quite heavy or bulky > loads, simply because they don't require a rack (at least those I use on my > bikes) but I prefer panniers for the shopping ease. I wheel my bikes > through the stores as my shopping cart and find the grocery-specific Banjos > the best I've used -- wish I could afford the upscale Ortliebs, but for the > money the BBs are excellent. And of course they are so easy to put on and > take off. The hook on top/bungee on the bottom is not the most secure > system but for short grocery rides (I usually extend them to 11 miles rt or > more) they are fine. > > And a plug for the Medium Saddlesack. I've carried up to 30 lb and, more > to the point, it will carry as much as a single Ortlieb Packer, ie about > one paper grocery sack's worth with flap closed, though I -- and I > emphasize that I am speaking for myself -- find it considerably less easy > to load than an open-style pannier. > > I am debating whether to continue the conversion of a larger-sized > Timbuktu bag into a pannier by bolting on an Ortlieb mount. Right now it's > got the simple dowel + toe straps system that works very well, but it takes > a tedious 10 seconds to release it. OTOH, the dowel/strap system does allow > me to use it also as a messenger bag while the Ortleib clamps would stick > out on the back ... > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Christopher Chen > <cc...@nougat.org<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> Can we please drop this thread and talk about something less contentious, >> like carbs or carbon forks? >> >> cc >> >> -- >> "I want the kind of six pack you can't drink." -- Micah >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to >> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >> . >> Visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > > > -- > > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > patric...@resumespecialties.com <javascript:> > > Albuquerque, NM > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
