Where I live it is very race bike oriented, on the road or on the trail. I 
don't see too many people riding anything but race bikes dressed in full 
kit and I don't even think you can buy panniers. Basically Trek and 
Specialized rule it. Riv is my main bike shop now; I really dig the no 
shipping on orders of $150 or more. 
 

On Saturday, April 20, 2013 7:39:38 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:

> Chris W: that's a good point. I sorta live in a bubble. Not only do I work 
> in a shop where we deal with approximately zero actual racers, very few of 
> my customers own or ride mass market "road bikes". Of course, in the twin 
> cities, one can't miss the broad presence of Surly.

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