Liesl, by Bay Area standards--the BA being a place that's surrounded by 
suitalbe camping sites--20 to 30 miles each way is a malathion! Last week 
we went on one that took 55 minutes to get to, and that included some 
traffic lights and pushing. The week before, it was more adventurous, with 
a 3 mile hilly ride (partly  in the dark), and if it's longer than that 
it's not as much fun (opinion there). If you give Manny a 30 mile leash  
he'll use it, so I wouldn't do that if I were you. There are tons of 
options all the heck over the place, but some of it depends  on group size. 
There are delightful close places that have zero great tent sites, and 
barely room for 3 tents but if you don't mind sleeping on a slant or in a 
bivy sack....And there are others that---welll, there are plenty out there, 
Contra Costa Country (where we are)---Walnut Creeky, Shell Ride, Mount 
Diablo....and then Marin Co. and the Headlands.. 

Lists are up on the site, but for anybody going who's not sure, this is a 
good starter gear checklist that can be followed exactly with good results, 
or added to or subtracted from to suit:

Sleeping bag, pad
VBL if you're into them, and not everybody is
Tent, stakes. Short, spikey stakes, in case the ground is hard. It won't be 
soft enough to require wide stakes.
Pillow if you like pillows. Inflatable + item of clothing, stuffed into a 
wool top you aren't sleeping in makes a half-decent head-rig.
Toothbrush paste floss, and the phenomenal Stim-U-Dent pics, which I can't 
recommend highly enough. Never used them? You're in for a treat.
Headlight, book
Pajamas. Wool head to toe, beanie to sox, unless you're a vegan.
Warm hang-out-in camp clothese. A light down sweater or fake down sweater 
--one of those super fashionble Patagonia jobs is the current ticket, it 
seems. But something like taht packs small and comes in handly. 
Stove? Bowl-plate-spork? Or bring hand-food and don't make  rigamaroll of 
it.
Knife? Somebody generally brings group cheese or salami or something, and 
you have to bring your own knife to cut it.
Camera.
Bandana, in case somebody brings messy food or whatever.

No doubt others willl chime in, and bring it all on, but this is a list 
that totally works.
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We have a loaner bag and tent and pad. THose things are a pain to travel 
with. 

On your frame order form: Recheck your saddle height, not jibing with PBH.



On Monday, February 11, 2013 11:17:29 AM UTC-8, Liesl wrote:
>
> Yes, Manny.  My dreams are telling me to go camping when I visit Riv in a 
> couple weeks.  Jenny RCW-West has also chimed in that she wants to go.  So 
> it's an Official Riv Chica Warrior Jamboree!  
>
> Can I suggest a route that is not too long—maybe 20-30 miles each way?  
> And not too technical as in a traverse along 40 degree inclines over 
> boulders and tree stumps.  And accessible from Walnut Creek as I would need 
> to beg a bike from Riv.  I am *all in* on this and willing to pack a light 
> camping kit in a duffle for the plane, although would also welcome sharing 
> a bunk in a 2-3 person tent if this is a possibility.  If it's totally 
> rainy, bets are off; however, cooler temps are not an obstacle for me as I 
> ride in snow. 
>
> Who's in on this caper?  You don't have to be a RCW—yet!  Just believe in 
> the RCW Credo (which we'll have to come up with during the Jamboree).
>
> Can't wait, Liesl
>

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