I quoted Pasela-TG with Kevlar bead, which I think most people want the TG belt. I agree the Conti stands out as an exceptional tire, and I agree with just about everything else you said.
On Thursday, January 31, 2013 12:45:30 PM UTC-6, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > > Ron Mc: Not to split hairs and pick nits, but... in the 700x28 size, there > are several options that are considerably lighter than the Pasela. The > Pasela 700x28 wire-bead tires I have in my shop are 310g on average > according to the label, not 270g. This is actually close to the 320g weight > of a "heavy" Conti Gatorskin in the same nominal size, and heavier than a > 295g JB Green in the noticeably fatter 700x33.33333 size. The Panaracer > folders - T-serv and Pasela TG - in 700x28 are listed at 280-290g. Are > there regular non-TG Pasela with a kevlar bead? If so, those might be the > 270g version to which you're referring. Nonetheless... The Conti GP > 4-season is 250g. Schwalbe Durano and Vittoria Rubino Pro II are listed at > 230g and 225g, respectively. And there are other similar lightweights in > the sub-250g weight class. Obviously, compared to Schwalbe Marathon and > Continental Contact and other heavily-armored tires, the Pasela is a > lightweight rocket ship, but compared to the true lightweights, it's 30-40% > too heavy. Hence my confusion about whether you have positive or negative > feelings about the Pasela based on its weight. I'm still not sure if you're > praising it or berating it based on its weight. > > That said, and to bring this somewhat back on-topic, 700x28 lightweight > performance tires are somewhat of a newish thing. Going bigger than 700x28, > 700x32 performance tires are mostly in the cyclocross knobby category. > Bigger than 700x32 is mostly relegated to the flat-proof heavy-duty and/or > cheap category among major tire manufacturers. The Paselas in the bigger > sizes, the Kojak in 700x35, and the JB Green are good quality decently > lightweight exceptions. The Marathon Supreme is the balance that works for > me most of the time. They're weight-competitive with Paselas but much > tougher and longer lasting. > > > > > On Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:29:27 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: >> >> Jim, I don't think it's relative at all - there is no other clincher tire >> in the weight class with Paselas (and to me, Jack Browns count as Pasela >> with a Riv-specs) >> >> On Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:22:39 AM UTC-6, Jim Thill - Hiawatha >> Cyclery wrote: >>> >>> Do you mean to say that 270g is too heavy, or that the relatively light >>> 270g weight of the Pasela makes it a bargain. >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
