I'll add a third black mountain drop. I received my monster cross frame a
couple weeks ago. I can't wait to get it built up and put some miles on it.

Dan Abelson
St. Paul, MN
On Jan 22, 2013 12:43 PM, "William" <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> "or 1/3 of a Black Mountain 'cross frame"
>
> That's two Black Mountain drops in the last hour!  Mike Varley is taking
> over the world!  hee hee.
>
> Disclosure:  Mike Varley is currently building a 650B wheelset for me.
>
> On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 10:31:36 AM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote:
>>
>> I don't see why, aside from market, that a motorcycle tire SHOULD cost
>> more than a bicycle tire. There's less material, but the purpose and
>> construction is the same. In fact, margin on a bicycle tire might well be
>> lower than a motorcycle tire. I have no firsthand knowledge, but I started
>> thinking in those terms when I realized that a custom rack might have as
>> many welds as a frame, on smaller, fussier tubes, but can only sell for
>> 1/10 the price.
>>
>> That said, after riding the 60mm Big Apples and loving them, I could see
>> splurging on these. I won't - I'd rather put my $$ towards more durable
>> items, like a Jones 135mm front hub, or 1/3 of a Black Mountain 'cross
>> frame, but a lightweight "competition" Big Apple is in the realm of
>> worthwhile upgrades, to my mind. More so than $245 cassettes, at any rate.
>>
>> Philip
>> www.biketinker.com
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 8:16:46 AM UTC-8, davidfrench wrote:
>>>
>>> Like Bobby, I think Schwable is going too far price wise. This is the
>>> same amount of $ as for a good front motorcycle tyre...
>>
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